No mag = No level 10......... But how well would this work?

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  • nak81783
    Registered User
    • Nov 2001
    • 782

    #16
    The only way that could be possible is if the bolt was one solid piece. It has to do with the Calculus of limits. Kinda like the fact that you can never pull a rope on its two ends tight enough to make it perfectly straight. There will always be some trivial lag in the rope. Similarly, the spring will pick up a little lag (compress slightly). If you made it too tight that the air alignment displacement would be negligible, I'm sure it wouldn't accomodate a paintball in it's way. The spring tension would be too tight.

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    • BenD
      Registered User
      • Feb 2002
      • 94

      #17
      thought I'd bring this up,

      I geuss some guy over at PBR actually made one... I read nothing of his tread, just saw pictures so dont know if his worked or not...

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      • Person
        Registered User
        • Aug 2002
        • 516

        #18
        Well, to make the front of the bolt stay still you can use a ball lock, like on the twist lock on automags. I just remembered that it would be hard for the spring to reload the front of the bolt so it will kinda click into the ball again
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        • Conqueror
          PBN Mod Squad
          • Feb 2002
          • 167

          #19
          Yeah, that design is basically Boston Paintball's Reflex bolt, which IIRC was released in '98. There are a couple versions of it out now. Yours looks very good though.

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          • toymyster
            Team OSIRIS
            • Dec 2000
            • 1277

            #20
            Yes, your idea is solid, in fact, there is a bolt made like that already, the cocker anti-chop bolt!! I've seen it in action, it works rather well!!!
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            • Automaggin2
              Registered User
              • Sep 2002
              • 2506

              #21
              its already been done. theres one called a JAM Products bolt. Search on google for it.
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              • flanders
                Registered User
                • Sep 2002
                • 142

                #22
                corect em if im wrong but if the bolt moves to absorb impact, the air hole would be in the worng position ie no air going through

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                • Blazestorm
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 3523

                  #23
                  basically... no air = no chopped ball...

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                  • Mossman
                    habitual line stepper
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 3751

                    #24
                    Originally posted by flanders
                    corect em if im wrong but if the bolt moves to absorb impact, the air hole would be in the worng position ie no air going through
                    Ya, i think you'd need the back section to have some meat on it with a air passage milled into it. Then you have a set distance the bolt can spring back and still shoot like normal. At that distance you can mill a slot all the way forward on the bolt (Like a step), so once the seal is broken by the lower step the air moving through the back of the bolt is released.

                    Big problem #1....Where does the air go? Do you drill a hole and put o-rings on either side to seal it?

                    Big problem #2 is the design of the air passage in the back section. Theres probably a better place to put the air release stuff, but its 2am and im tired as hell :)
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                    • mykroft
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 2010

                      #25
                      Elongated air passage.

                      And seal it at the back (Don't worry about the front).

                      Problem solved.
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                      • nak81783
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 782

                        #26
                        My Bad

                        I would like to take back my previous statements. A buddy of mine made one that he designed, and to my surprise, it works very well. Check it out at www.banditbolts.com While you're there, you might want to check out his other bolts too. I've seen plenty of those in action as well, and they are just beautiful. They've put me out of plenty of games.

                        Nathan
                        Last of the Salzburg Clan

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