Feasible Paintball Advancements?

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Zimbo


That would be really stupid. All you'd see is dotted lines. Thatd be so stupid beyod belief.

Thanks for not contributing anything to the thread.

BTW, with recent tracking technology, you can do things such a change the intensity of the color following the ball so it looks more realistic, just more visible. You could also probably leave a little bit of motion blur too.

[Zimbo]

Originally posted by FooTemps


Thanks for not contributing anything to the thread.

BTW, with recent tracking technology, you can do things such a change the intensity of the color following the ball so it looks more realistic, just more visible. You could also probably leave a little bit of motion blur too.

even with no motion blur when you shoot like 10 balls in under a second your gonna see
o o o o o o o o o o

it would look like a dotted line throwing contest. not to much could make televised paintball enjoyable to watch.

[wish-had-a-mag]

Maybe I'm in the wrong forum for this, but why go for super-expensive electronic stuff. Since I've heard all the money is in recball, I think it will be new specialty weapons. We've all had lots of fun using paint grenades and mortars, why not take that into new things. Underground paintball mines, air-to-ground paintballs, rc vehicles equipped for paintball, and the such. Feel free to add other ideas to this.

[Zimbo]

Originally posted by wish-had-a-mag
Maybe I'm in the wrong forum for this, but why go for super-expensive electronic stuff. Since I've heard all the money is in recball, I think it will be new specialty weapons. We've all had lots of fun using paint grenades and mortars, why not take that into new things. Underground paintball mines, air-to-ground paintballs, rc vehicles equipped for paintball, and the such. Feel free to add other ideas to this.

that wouldnt be cheap. I think cheaper paintballs would be the best advancement

[JonDaAzn]

what most people don't realize that paintballs ARE cheaper than they used to be, and is getting cheaper all the time, i think eventually we will see a split between very cheap and very expensive paint

[Zimbo]

lol i know. house paint costs 40 and this really high quality paint ive been told costs like 140. thats sad. Still i dont like paying 74.50 for marbs or all stars or el tigres. Sure JT carnivores for 50 is nice but lower is better! You want world peace make marbs sell for 40 bucks. You want the second best thing lower the price to 60 dollars. i know that all the way back in the EARLY days paintballs were like 7cents per paintball now its like .0375 cents a ball. I do doubt tho that it costs even .01 cents per ball. but anyway lower prices = better higher quality = better the banishment of Smart Parts = Best

[locked_out]

magnj, that's a great idea. Not so much a horizontal view though. Let's say some sort of trajectory tracking camera behind the start box to record the laning off the break or during the game. I've seen that kind of technology tracking fully automatic weapons, it gives an effect of tracer rounds on camera.

[goldengun5]

some kind of ship that goes into markers, tehn you could set max fps, or any other thing you wanted. it could also be the security feature. Markers that have codes that can only be changed by the manufacturer. Stop the thiefs.

I think markers are reaching thier peak and soon , loaders, barrels, paint, and other things will catch up

[Viddles]

Things in Paintball:

1. ROF - check
2. Accuracy - check
3. Trigger pull - check
4. Consistency - check
5. Paintball quality - check
6. Price - Always improving
7. Loading/Reloading - still working on it

Yeah, as Tom says the regieme of paintball balistics has been fully researched. There are only a couple things left; the price of markers to continually come down, get lighter, and have more features(20bps with break beam eye being standard). Also, paintballs could always be cheaper. I'm waiting for the day that I pick up a case of marbs for $10 And loaders can improve. Granted the HALO B is quite awesome along with the warp. However, people always will want a faster way to reload.

[Burphel]

Ok, something I've thought about and talked about in the AO chatroom: On-gun air compressor. You'd still need a small tank to act as a pressure resevior for rapid fire, but if a compressor could be set up with a similar size/weight to a 68 ci tank, it might be worth it. You'd only need to get your pressure up to a little over the gun's operating pressure, although that's still pretty high when you think about it. Noise and fuel/battery size/weight would also be issues. But how cool would it be to never wait in an air line again?


As for the feasibility of using Foxtrax (the glowing puck) tech in paintball, pro hockey players have been clocked with shots over 110mph. Paintballs travel at 200 mph. If it doesn't work with the current cameras, then you'd only need to double the framerate, something I can't imagine is technically impossible. It'd also make it nearly impossible to wipe if a ref is allowed to see it live.

The question is whether the puck is tracked by a computer chip embedded inside or if it's radiologically tagged. I don't know. Putting chips inside each ball would most likely be prohibitively expensive. But if it's just a matter of a taggant, that wouldn't be too bad to stick in the paint mix. Of course then the question comes up of how much radiation is needed to make it work vs. how much players would be exposed over their career. If they can make it no more dangerous than working as an x-ray tech, it could work.

The results would be worth looking into at least if paintball is going to go on TV. If it makes a stream of shots look like a curved Star Wars laserbolt from the side, that's infinitely better than seeing nothing from the side.


Another thought. How about a gun that has a built-in chrono mated to an electronically controlled regulator that adjusts after each shot to keep the gun tuned to an exact FPS? No more fiddling with your gun at the chrony line, as it will have adjusted itself to your desired speed by the time you've fired your clearing shots. And rock-solid confidence that you'll never get a chrono penalty.

[magnj]

Thanks for the input Zimbo...psh. I think it would make it much easier for people to watch the game or even just for the players to review and find new lande and such.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Burphel
Ok, something I've thought about and talked about in the AO chatroom: On-gun air compressor. You'd still need a small tank to act as a pressure resevior for rapid fire, but if a compressor could be set up with a similar size/weight to a 68 ci tank, it might be worth it. You'd only need to get your pressure up to a little over the gun's operating pressure, although that's still pretty high when you think about it. Noise and fuel/battery size/weight would also be issues. But how cool would it be to never wait in an air line again?


As for the feasibility of using Foxtrax (the glowing puck) tech in paintball, pro hockey players have been clocked with shots over 110mph. Paintballs travel at 200 mph. If it doesn't work with the current cameras, then you'd only need to double the framerate, something I can't imagine is technically impossible. It'd also make it nearly impossible to wipe if a ref is allowed to see it live.

The question is whether the puck is tracked by a computer chip embedded inside or if it's radiologically tagged. I don't know. Putting chips inside each ball would most likely be prohibitively expensive. But if it's just a matter of a taggant, that wouldn't be too bad to stick in the paint mix. Of course then the question comes up of how much radiation is needed to make it work vs. how much players would be exposed over their career. If they can make it no more dangerous than working as an x-ray tech, it could work.

The results would be worth looking into at least if paintball is going to go on TV. If it makes a stream of shots look like a curved Star Wars laserbolt from the side, that's infinitely better than seeing nothing from the side.


Another thought. How about a gun that has a built-in chrono mated to an electronically controlled regulator that adjusts after each shot to keep the gun tuned to an exact FPS? No more fiddling with your gun at the chrony line, as it will have adjusted itself to your desired speed by the time you've fired your clearing shots. And rock-solid confidence that you'll never get a chrono penalty.

Yeah, the is the way to go on the tracking system. I know there are several tracking algorithms for movies. Like in the 2nd Dune scifi channel series, they used a tracking system to make everyone's eyes blue.

I'm not sure if it's capabale of tracking very many things at once and I'm not sure if it does INSTANT tracking after recording but I'm sure there could be a possibility of it.

Also, when you track the balls, they will be blurred lines most likely with extreme gaps in between. If you're firing 20bps at 300fps you have 15 feet between balls so there won't be too much problems even if they were dots.

[JonDaAzn]

the built in chrony idea is being used on the nerve by sp (boo!) but it allows the nerve to always shoot at the fps you set it and it sets its own dwell and pressure for maximum efficency(sp?)

[norcalcowboy]

OK well im not very smart, and deep blue is enw to me. But i was thinking wouldn't HUD, OLED, GPS, and the like jsut turn paintball into a real life halo-type game?? I dont thikn that would be that great. Isn't half the fun when ur on 1 side of a bunker and someone else is on the other nad u meet. I always find that enjoyable. But with gps it would take all the running adn care out of the game. I mean whats the point of trying to work ur way for a bunker when the other team knows ur comming and they sit and watch u move up. Whats the point? I say we just refine a few of the things that we alreayd have, make more/better upgrades. I love the game as it is, and even if some companys came out with all kinds of fancy stuff i wouldnt buy it.

Not sure if anyone agrees with me but thats my 2 cents

[FooTemps]

well, most of this would be for increasing spectator understanding, and reffing. These would also be used for scenario games most likely since the fields are so big.