Would this gun work?

[PevsBalla89]

http://members.cox.net/chris.hughes89/gun.swf

Basically this is how it works:
From the back, you've got your back cap outlined in black, and then a QEV putting air from a 3-way solenoid into a ram with a bumper in the back. The pressure given buy the QEV would drive the whole combo forward until the 2 inlet holes crossed (the red squares) firing the ball and sealing the breech. The 2nd QEV would then pressurize the area in the center driving the bolt back towards the back cap, which would be cushioned by the bumper.

the drawbacks:

• Well I guess I could have explained a matrix or shocker, i just don't understand how they work very well.
• inconsistant? The air never would really pass through a valve, it would just go from the guns ASA into a chamber were it would sit until the 2 inlet holes crossed.

Let me know what you guys think, it just popped into my head.

[Joni]

It wouldnt work. The air inlet to the right of the ram would push it forwar, but the inlet under the ram (the orange on) won't do anything. Essentially it will push as much forward as backward, and it wont move.

[XbeasleyX]

Didnt watch it too intently but it looks like a spyder with pneumatics instead of a spring. Modify that body valve and I think it would work.

[PevsBalla89]

It wouldnt work. The air inlet to the right of the ram would push it forwar, but the inlet under the ram (the orange on) won't do anything. Essentially it will push as much forward as backward, and it wont move.

I see what your saying, and if thats true then what makes the intimidator work, the air is put in basically the same place, not saying your wrong just wondering

[PevsBalla89]

Didnt watch it too intently but it looks like a spyder with pneumatics instead of a spring. Modify that body valve and I think it would work.

Yea i guess its like a single tube timmy (which is basically a spyder)

[Joni]

I see what your saying, and if thats true then what makes the intimidator work, the air is put in basically the same place, not saying your wrong just wondering

This is how a ram in a timmy/angel/b2k2/imp etc works. I hope you see the difference.

[Thorpydo]

If the ram design was changed so that it would work, what thoughts do you guys then have about the overall design?

[bjjb99]

The air inlet holes for the bolt (the red squares you mention)... are those squares meant to represent one large hole in the bolt and one large hole in the marker body leading to an air source, (in other words, the red squares represent the outlines of the air holes) or are they meant to represent smaller holes (i.e. the red lines are the holes, not the area between the red lines)?

BJJB

[athomas]

I have the same question as bjjb99.

If the red lines are the outline of the air passage, then the air will start to flow too soon. Keep the air passage short and wide so that it only opens up at the last possible moment as the bolt is hitting its forward position.

[PevsBalla89]

This is how a ram in a timmy/angel/b2k2/imp etc works. I hope you see the difference.

Yea i see it, so if i were to modify it more like that do you think it would work?

[PevsBalla89]

The air inlet holes for the bolt (the red squares you mention)... are those squares meant to represent one large hole in the bolt and one large hole in the marker body leading to an air source, (in other words, the red squares represent the outlines of the air holes) or are they meant to represent smaller holes (i.e. the red lines are the holes, not the area between the red lines)?

BJJB

Yea in the flash file thats what it represents, but i definitely see what athomas is saying

do you play at pevs? (noticed you are from NOVA)

[PevsBalla89]

anybody else?

[bjjb99]

do you play at pevs? (noticed you are from NOVA)

I haven't played for about a year and a half. When I did, I used to play at either AG Paintball or Hogback Mountain, both of which were just outside of Leesburg. Pev's was a bit of a drive for me compared to these two. Being an old fart like I am, I also took a liking to the more "sedate" woodsball style of play at Hogback... I could make it to where the action was without having to sprint. :)

BJJB

[lamby]

I am sot sure on this but I think you will have a bunch of problems with this design, even though it would most likely propel a paintball using the same properties as a pneumatic potato launcher)

problem 1:
the timing of the ram would have to be ultra critical to detrman velocity. The opening/closing of the port would have to be faster than that of an angel/timmie.

problem 2:
leaking. If you want a valve to move it will have to be sealed fairly loosly and lubricated. if you dump pressure behind an oring one of two things will happen. It will move the bolt (just like a ram or a blow forward) or it will leak if the ram is holding it closed.

problem 3:
bolt speed varibles: By pushing paint you will be slowing down the bolt making the velocity change as the timing would be affected.

All in all it would work, but it would be the most inaccurate, non effective marker in history.

[PevsBalla89]

I haven't played for about a year and a half. When I did, I used to play at either AG Paintball or Hogback Mountain, both of which were just outside of Leesburg. Pev's was a bit of a drive for me compared to these two. Being an old fart like I am, I also took a liking to the more "sedate" woodsball style of play at Hogback... I could make it to where the action was without having to sprint. :)

BJJB

Wow guess you havn't been out for a while. Pevs merged with AG and the old Woodbridge location closed. Its now just AG Hogback and VAG (almost out of buisiness). AG has improved 10 fold its crazy