Dustball?

[SlartyBartFast]

That makes sense, and why many people reccommend smooth, polished internals for paintball barrels, because it accomodates for the paintball like a rifled barrel would for a bullet.

Not really. The barrel doesn't "accomodate" the projectile. The barrel design for firearms, the rifling, is there for a specific purpose that imparts a desired effect on the projectile.

Rifling for a paintball would neither impart the desired effect (spinning of the paintball), not does it have any appreciable effect (as measured by Tom Kaye with the spinning barrel) if it is applied.

[justjoshin590]

one thing id like to know about agd's test's with nylon balls, they said they performed the same as regular paintballs, but different paintballs perform very differently (as in crap paint versus good paint)

[SlartyBartFast]

one thing id like to know about agd's test's with nylon balls, they said they performed the same as regular paintballs, but different paintballs perform very differently (as in crap paint versus good paint)

The only difference in performance (if they get out of the barrel) is consistency in weight and size. Unless they've got big nasty seams.

[IronCore]

how about elongated paintballs, the same width but twice as long and ronded at the end, or just like the less than lethal launcher that agd made for fn

http://www.fnhusa.com/contents/ll_303.htm

just add fins to the paintballs, it would require clip fed markers, but the people that would need the great range increase would mainly play milsim

Is this done by the same non-lethal round?

Red Sox Fan Killed by Police ProjectileBy GREG SUKIENNIK BOSTON (AP) - A college student celebrating the Red Sox come-from-behind victory over the New York Yankees was killed after a police officer called in to control the rowdy crowd shot her in the eye with what was designed to be a non-lethal projectile....

...Police Commissioner Kathleen O'Toole said officers were using projectiles ``designed to break upon impact, dousing the target with (pepper-like) spray.''

So guys dont start playing with the projectiles...pretty soon we might not have paintball at all.

[justjoshin590]

it hasnt been released yet exactely what it was, people say they saw both pepper ball launching tippmanns and fn 303's at the game, and i think its pretty obvious that a paintball version would be lighter, as in no powderd metal, and what would happen if they just made a lighter version of the 303's ammo? even with less weight i think as long as it was fin stabilized and front heavy it would be effective

[Miscue]

So you are basically saying that because of the difference of paintballs and bullets in both physical construction and properties in how they react to stress makes rifling not worth it?

So you would have to change the very nature of paintballs in order to even make a feasable argument for a rifled barrel?

That makes sense, and why many people reccommend smooth, polished internals for paintball barrels, because it accomodates for the paintball like a rifled barrel would for a bullet.

Yeah, barrels on a firearm and a paintball gun serve very different purposes. A paintball barrel acts as a pressure chamber - this is its function. The paint/barrel match thing is for having a properly sized pressure chamber to make it more consistent - tighter velocity control.

With a firearm, the ammunition itself is a pressure chamber with built-in velocity control - a measured amount of powder. A firearm barrel acts as one too I suppose, but not to the degree of how shooting a paintball is completely dependent upon the paintball barrel to get to speed. You could clamp down a bullet and hit the firing pin, and it'll still go pretty good without even being shot from a gun. A paintball without a barrel won't work very well - last time I did it, the ball went a few yards maybe. So you can see there is a fundamental difference between what roles are played by the two kinds of barrels.

If you think of a spitwad shooter, using a straw and the before mentioned spitwad - it's pretty self-evident that a rifled or super-polished straw won't make a difference. The problem is not the straw, but the spitwad.

Paintballs are not very accurate - hence the need for 18+ bps markers and hi-tech loaders.

Any barrel touted to be "accurate" should come with a couple 10 round tubes and a scope or sights - and EVERYONE would use it. I suppose the term "accurate" is somewhat subjective - I guess accuracy when it comes to paintball has an accepted degree of error. I think it is more appropriate for barrel companies to brag how their barrel is less inaccurate than the next guy's.

Barrels have very little to do with accuracy - this idea is hard for some to swallow for some reason, and completely contrary to marketing hype. And people will defend this incorrect notion as though it were religious conviction.

The pinnacle of barrel design is a polished piece of metal with a round hole in the middle - everything else is aesthetic.

To make a paintball more accurate, it needs to be denser and have a different shape - basically, it needs to be more like a bullet. If you look at the FN303 round, that's about what it takes - but you can't shoot someone with that in paintball.

[Thunder Bunny]

Sounds like a decent idea to me OTHER than the sheer cost of them...sheesh I hate to pay more than 40$ now for a case of paint I cant imagine paying 80$ for a case of Gold Bond Medicated Balls...

Way way back, in pb's younger days, a case was about $100 or so, but you got 2500......

And it had a vegetable oil fill, too....