New Ball Design(s?)

[SpitFire1299]

I dont think its about how it hurts when it hits you...

The balls we have now are good, but they should take more time and care into making sure that they are round, not like- ()

[ScatterPlot]

The thing is that the balls do collapse already. It's hard to make them collapse any more than flat as a pancake.

[WingMan13]

I've never had an inaccurate gun as long as I had the right paint to barrel match. I'd hit what I aimed at first shot. I think we already have the consistancy and speed as well in many guns. Do we really want more range? Its getting hard to find big enough locations to play as it is. I really cant see any more improvement to a paintball without us having to pay a lot more. What I think would help is if we took the opposite approach and make paintballs cheaper. What really makes them expensive? Is it the design? The fill? (I hear this is a big one...comment please if thats not right) The manufacture? The distribution and marketing? Its probably a combination of all of this. If we maybe solved one of these, like say the fill, would that help drop paint prices down to the point that we dont care to blow a case or two through a gun?

[undescriptive]

The problem would then become, how to load the ball.

the ball would still be "round" just the back edge would look sort of starshaped and prunelike (if you follow)

thus it should make the front of the round heavier and at a guess, the heavy front should "snap-to" if fired from an odd angle....

think of throwing a dart backwards....

however this is all speculation as I have no way of testing anything...

[PsychoBaller]

I say we move onto Square or Triangular paintball shapes, hah

[frop]

How about developing a better way to store paint? If you're still not satisfied, then have at it with 'new' paint 'design'.

[Jakedubbleya]

Looks like theres not too much demand out there for an improved paint. I just though it would be cool to play paintball without the range/accuracy limitations.

Thanks for all the ideas and participation though guys. You really helped me to mature my own and get a feel for who wants what.

The thing is that the balls do collapse already. It's hard to make them collapse any more than flat as a pancake.

Uh, thats not the point. Its about how they collapse not how much.

[93civiccpe]

... I just though it would be cool to play paintball without the range/accuracy limitations...

That's easy. Just buy a Tippman A5 on Greg Hastings Paintball Game.. didn't you know they are the most accurate guns out there?? (yeah.. I didn't either.. and boy was I upset when I fired them in real life because I must be crosseyed with the terrible accuracy I get).

The other solution is that you could also play "paintball military style" with real rifles and wax bullets, but that means enlisting.. lol.

[Jakedubbleya]

lol yeah, not to get off topic/restart the thread for stupid reasons, but that game is rediculous lol just played it myself. I mean the gameplay is fun and its good exposure, but come on 16" barrel has literally TWICE the accuracy as the 12" one? and theres not even a 10" option...

Its basically which company threw the most money at it, and theres no gun more advertised than the A-5, thats for sure. Not even a mention of freak barrels, let alone lapco or cp or j&j

since when does the tippman 98 custom have a faster rate of fire than the spyder? i didnt even know 98's had a rate of fire, i thought it was just one grunt of exhasperation to the next.

anyway.... theres literally countless "technical" things wrong with that game...

about the military wax bullets... ouch, ouch ouch ouch!

Yeah, I guess its gunna be a game of PEEKn'SPRAY for quite some time, and im fine with that, but maby, one day....

[ScatterPlot]

Uh, thats not the point. Its about how they collapse not how much.

Hang on, I'm still confused. Are you saying like slow down the time of the collapse? Because if something collapses with say springs over a time of X seconds and it collapses the same amount in the same X time with like air cushions or something, then it will give the same force. It's really kinda unfeasable (is that a word?) to make it collapse more slowly, because you really can't get any noticeable differences impacting a hard surface. Fire a paintball into a loose sheet or something, it might not break, but against skin, pretty much anything you hit it with will collapse the same. Think about reballs; they're made of foam and they hit about the same.

[Jakedubbleya]

redirecting the force out instead of forward, not slowing it down(I think).

edit:Although slowing the impact would also help.

[foot]

I would like to see some experiments done with the "happy non hooker" style of paintball. This would have a dimpled stripe around the equator of the ball. I think the orientation in the breech would matter, though.

["the FitZ"]

I don't know if you guys know this, but muskets are not that accurate. I'd say it's about where we are at right now. The new ones use sabots (spelling?) that look similar to a bullet. However the old civil war muskets w/ balls were not that accurate and that was with a 4 1/2 foot barrel.

And about the sticky balls. Wouldn't they stick to...each other?

[hitech]

Manike has already discovered a problem with the FN-303 shape. Without a heavy front end (FN-303 rounds use bismuth) the shape will actually make the round tumble erratically.

I personally think the problem was the spin rate. It was wrong for the weight of the projectile. Other projectiles of the same shape that are NOT front heavy benefit from spin stabilization. I believe a paintball weight FN-303 shaped projectile would also. It just has to be the "correct" spin rate.

[hitech]

first off, the only thing AGD proved was that PAINTBALLS, dont have increased accuracy with high speed rotation.

That is not true. They also tested nylon balls that were the same weight as a paintball. They performed no better than a paintball.