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  • paintballfiend
    I like pudding.
    • Jun 2006
    • 555

    #31
    I have a question, can the military extend the time a soldier is in active duty, beyond the time he signed up for?

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    • grEnAlEins
      dazed and confused
      • Jul 2002
      • 2864

      #32
      Originally posted by paintballfiend
      I have a question, can the military extend the time a soldier is in active duty, beyond the time he signed up for?
      I believe that they can under some circumstances.. not 100% sure though.
      bless, support, and never forget the troops
      God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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      • Army
        Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

        • Oct 2000
        • 5785

        #33
        Originally posted by paintballfiend
        I have a question, can the military extend the time a soldier is in active duty, beyond the time he signed up for?
        Absolutely, and they do it frequently as mission dictates.

        Best example for you is AO member Kosmo, who was extended far beyond his contract while in Afghanistan.

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        • BeaverEater
          25thID - back in hawaii
          • Oct 2003
          • 1536

          #34
          we have a few guys in our platoon that will have their contracts extended a few months during our deployment. Its happened to a few of my buddies before and theres nothing you can do about it. But i do believe they pay you more, that tho im not sure about.


          I just want this stuff gone, super low prices

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          • kosmo
            KaPTaiN KeNNy
            • Dec 2000
            • 1642

            #35
            Originally posted by Army
            Absolutely, and they do it frequently as mission dictates.

            Best example for you is AO member Kosmo, who was extended far beyond his contract while in Afghanistan.
            Im gonna get shafted again too, only this time theyre extending me past my 8 year obligation. Yay.
            Kosmo For President '08, '12, '16... However long it takes

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            • SCpoloRicker
              HA HA I'm custom!!1
              • Jan 2004
              • 4375

              #36
              Originally posted by kosmo
              Im gonna get shafted again too, only this time theyre extending me past my 8 year obligation. Yay.
              It's probably not much consolation, but you're quite funnier when the Army is screwing you over. :)

              /keep yer head down
              God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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              • kosmo
                KaPTaiN KeNNy
                • Dec 2000
                • 1642

                #37
                When isnt the army shafting me? Hell, Ive gotta fly all the way from Florida to Tokyo today. What did they book me on? Delta coach class. The other guy thats getting sent? First class. Im at least 7 feet taller than him, put him in the cramped crap. Then, once we get to Tokyo after like 20 hours of flying, I have to take a 6 hour bus ride. The other guy? First class flight from Tokyo. Stupid LTC.
                Kosmo For President '08, '12, '16... However long it takes

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                • Empyreal Rogue
                  Zetsubou Billy
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1103

                  #38
                  Originally posted by kosmo
                  When isnt the army shafting me? Hell, Ive gotta fly all the way from Florida to Tokyo today. What did they book me on? Delta coach class. The other guy thats getting sent? First class. Im at least 7 feet taller than him, put him in the cramped crap. Then, once we get to Tokyo after like 20 hours of flying, I have to take a 6 hour bus ride. The other guy? First class flight from Tokyo. Stupid LTC.


                  rofl
                  AO Mid-Atlantic Part Duece.

                  Come on Powerlyte!

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                  • trethompson2
                    Custom User Title:
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 140

                    #39
                    Army has this covered.

                    Its pretty simple.. your paid to do a job (knowing the risk) and if you dont finish it were not going to pay you the un-finished portion.
                    All that extra money for some one who drove there hummer into a phone pole on accident and is sitting at home with 2 broken arms can go twoards armor and food for soliders in the field.
                    We need to get them every penny we can. I dont see why a solider would even complain about not getting their full bonus when they didnt complete the full job and knowing the money they didnt get will just go back into the army and supply needy others.

                    Thats like paying some one to remodel your home and you pay them 10% more to get yours done before others waiting.
                    If you dont finish 2 out of 3 days im not going to pay you the full 10%. Ill pay you for the one day and 3.3%

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                    • Hexis
                      Green Mag Freak
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 2427

                      #40
                      Originally posted by trethompson2
                      Thats like paying some one to remodel your home and you pay them 10% more to get yours done before others waiting.
                      If you dont finish 2 out of 3 days im not going to pay you the full 10%. Ill pay you for the one day and 3.3%
                      It's really not. If you pay someone to complete work, they need to complete work. If you pay someone a bonus for signing on to do the work, and pay them to do the work you only get to stop paying them. It's like paying someone a signing bonus. The Army is in effect transferring all risk to the individual solider. You really think it's right to put someone in harm's way, then ask them to pay back a bonus they got for signing up? It's not as if they continue to get hazard pay after they are wounded. You think they Army informs each solider what risks they will face in the line of duty? It's not exactly informed risk acceptance.

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                      • Spider-TW
                        U R techno-literate!

                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3554

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Hexis
                        It's really not. If you pay someone to complete work, they need to complete work. If you pay someone a bonus for signing on to do the work, and pay them to do the work you only get to stop paying them. It's like paying someone a signing bonus. The Army is in effect transferring all risk to the individual solider. You really think it's right to put someone in harm's way, then ask them to pay back a bonus they got for signing up? It's not as if they continue to get hazard pay after they are wounded. You think they Army informs each solider what risks they will face in the line of duty? It's not exactly informed risk acceptance.
                        That's getting toward my only problem with the bonus concept, I think. The people that would be attracted by the bonus are the ones that are not thinking about paying it back.

                        Those that join in order to serve their country or at least with reasonable expectations are not significantly attracted by a bonus. The people that are may not need to be attracted in the first place.

                        Also, I'm not thinking about broken arms, I'm thinking about missing parts. I would think they would throw the bonus down as disability insurance, if nothing else. If you're not disabled, then you have the 'opportunity' to finish earning back. :)

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                        • trethompson2
                          Custom User Title:
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 140

                          #42
                          I can understand where your coming from.
                          But from I read atlease they dont take it all.

                          But any one that joins the service should be prepared for war.
                          If I didnt have the obligation to take care of my uncle I would of been off to the army long time ago. Well he never asked me to stay, but with my parents,grand parents and pretty much all family being dead and him being the only one left I cant leave his side.

                          My friend Dave joined the Marines before any talk of war was even in the air.
                          Well he was a desk jockey and ended up in Iraq on convoy duty.
                          Well.. hes not the same at all. He wasnt built for anything like that.
                          He cant even watch gore with out feeling sick.

                          I just wish I was able to take some ones spot over seas that has family and kids. I know one day I will but I know im more built for "the crap" then alot. Ive suffered thru enough in life where I could tolerate thoese situations.

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                          • Dark Side
                            RPG Fan Club President
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1212

                            #43
                            Originally posted by kosmo
                            Stupid LTC.

                            I'll venture a guess that you are enlisted huh?

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                            • kosmo
                              KaPTaiN KeNNy
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 1642

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Spider-TW
                              That's getting toward my only problem with the bonus concept, I think. The people that would be attracted by the bonus are the ones that are not thinking about paying it back.

                              Those that join in order to serve their country or at least with reasonable expectations are not significantly attracted by a bonus. The people that are may not need to be attracted in the first place.

                              Also, I'm not thinking about broken arms, I'm thinking about missing parts. I would think they would throw the bonus down as disability insurance, if nothing else. If you're not disabled, then you have the 'opportunity' to finish earning back. :)

                              edit if you think you could somehow fill every mtoe slot in the military with people that join out of pure patriotism.

                              Once again kosmo, do not let your personal opinions about the military, cloud your ability to post civilly. Last warning. You are sitting on a perm ban. Army
                              Last edited by Army; 12-10-2007, 12:38 AM.
                              Kosmo For President '08, '12, '16... However long it takes

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                              • Spider-TW
                                U R techno-literate!

                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3554

                                #45
                                Originally posted by kosmo
                                ...if you think you could somehow fill every mtoe slot in the military with people that join out of pure patriotism.
                                ....if you think you can give everyone money up front for signing up and get it back later without a lot work or complaint.
                                Last edited by Army; 12-10-2007, 12:39 AM.

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