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  • insixdays777
    Long Live AGD
    • Mar 2004
    • 857

    #16
    What if the "little Green men" do exist...however they are not "alien" only "us" from the future...time travelers....

    Dont worry guys still a secptic... just drunken conjecture, more B.S. for the pot...7 Sam Adams and counting....

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    • ThePixelGuru
      Guru of Pixels
      • May 2005
      • 1461

      #17
      LK-13: I don't think it's at all reasonable to attempt to fathom the motives of (theoretical) aliens. If we have no idea what they'd be like, talk like, look like or what their technology would be like, I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that we could know what motivates them. However, I believe you're right about the self-perpetuating lie thing. If the government wants to cover up a military test, all they have to do is have a press conference and assure the public that it's absolutely not aliens.

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      • FreakBaller12
        e-tough

        • May 2003
        • 3663

        #18
        So do you think people on another planet are finally seeing Jonny Unitas in the super bowl?
        Me and my friend ellen were trying to figure that out and then we realized our friend was actually from another pluto

        /2 bonus points for whoever gets it
        //sorry for interrupting
        I knew not what I did but am now edumacated

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        • LegumeOfTerror
          Chris The Almighty
          • Nov 2003
          • 379

          #19
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          • Babylon 5
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 200

            #20
            As for being able to detect an object near the earth, the US has stealth jets so why is it hard to believe that aliens that have craft that can travel long distances at high rates of speeds would not have a similar tech to go un noticed?

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            • LK-13
              Confused on purpose!
              • Dec 2006
              • 584

              #21
              Originally posted by ThePixelGuru
              LK-13: I don't think it's at all reasonable to attempt to fathom the motives of (theoretical) aliens. If we have no idea what they'd be like, talk like, look like or what their technology would be like, I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that we could know what motivates them. However, I believe you're right about the self-perpetuating lie thing. If the government wants to cover up a military test, all they have to do is have a press conference and assure the public that it's absolutely not aliens.

              i said nothing about motives.
              my only point is that if they are an intelligent space fairing life form,
              no matter what shape, size, colour or composition they are they will have to work in the physical universe, in that universe you have to function with in the laws of physics.
              granted that to travel the distances we are speaking of here the Aliens will need a greater understanding of the physical laws of the universe and applied them to their technology.

              this does not refute the point that the artificial transmissions coming from the Earth make it
              stand out like a white guy on Soul Train!
              radio being a very basic technology they will receive out signals.
              being intelligent they will capture and decode the transmissions.
              decipher the content, discover we are a waring planet.
              there is always a war some where on Earth, thats just the way it is.
              even in the classic movie "THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL" the first thing we do
              to an alien visitor is shoot it!
              we Earthlings feel much safer if we know that we can kill the unknown being before we sit down to talk to it. or the one that is now acting on the fact we killed it's ship mate.

              No, seeing the way we tend to kill, butcher, rape, torture, mutilate, cannibalize, eviscerate, immolate, and do all other manner of mean nasty things to our own kind;

              WHY WOULD THEY COME HERE?

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              • Ninjeff
                it only takes one.
                • Jan 2007
                • 1205

                #22
                im most certain that if there WAS a very advanced civilization, they too, have gone through the "kill, rape, mutilate etc" stage. Dont forget, just about ALL of our advanced tech comes from military needs/ applications. Not a hard stretch to imagine maybe theres did at one time too.

                Not to say they would be hostile, just to say that maybe they would "understand".

                Here is another, loosely related question:

                "what do you think would happen to the religions (the big ones) of the world if they found signs of life in space? Not even intelligent ones, but even just a single celled organism, or fossil of one on Mars.

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                • LK-13
                  Confused on purpose!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 584

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ninjeff
                  im most certain that if there WAS a very advanced civilization, they too, have gone through the "kill, rape, mutilate etc" stage. Dont forget, just about ALL of our advanced tech comes from military needs/ applications. Not a hard stretch to imagine maybe theres did at one time too.

                  Not to say they would be hostile, just to say that maybe they would "understand".

                  Here is another, loosely related question:

                  "what do you think would happen to the religions (the big ones) of the world if they found signs of life in space? Not even intelligent ones, but even just a single celled organism, or fossil of one on Mars.
                  the same thing that happened on Jan. 1, 2000
                  and for the nit pickers again on Jan. 1, 2001
                  some will say it's God's will that we now find out because we have grown yadda yadda yadda...
                  some will say it's a lie, and blasphemy.
                  some will strap bombs to themselves and blow up people that were minding their own business.

                  pretty much business as usual.
                  then spike will show videos of alien life form girls gone wild
                  Fox not to be out done will have an "I'm having an Alien Trailer Parks Baby telethon...
                  ABC will expose the sex scandal in the White House, where a stain was found on a blue aliens dress...
                  Ted Nugent will shoot something.
                  it will be discovered that Pam Anderson's breast implants are actually Alien bacteria colonies.
                  Gene Simmons will sign the Aliens to a record deal then trade mark millions of $$$ worth of merchandise.

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                  • ThePixelGuru
                    Guru of Pixels
                    • May 2005
                    • 1461

                    #24
                    Originally posted by LK-13
                    i said nothing about motives.
                    my only point is that if they are an intelligent space fairing life form,
                    no matter what shape, size, colour or composition they are they will have to work in the physical universe, in that universe you have to function with in the laws of physics.
                    granted that to travel the distances we are speaking of here the Aliens will need a greater understanding of the physical laws of the universe and applied them to their technology.

                    this does not refute the point that the artificial transmissions coming from the Earth make it
                    stand out like a white guy on Soul Train!
                    radio being a very basic technology they will receive out signals.
                    being intelligent they will capture and decode the transmissions.
                    decipher the content, discover we are a waring planet.
                    there is always a war some where on Earth, thats just the way it is.
                    even in the classic movie "THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL" the first thing we do
                    to an alien visitor is shoot it!
                    we Earthlings feel much safer if we know that we can kill the unknown being before we sit down to talk to it. or the one that is now acting on the fact we killed it's ship mate.

                    No, seeing the way we tend to kill, butcher, rape, torture, mutilate, cannibalize, eviscerate, immolate, and do all other manner of mean nasty things to our own kind;

                    WHY WOULD THEY COME HERE?
                    But that's assuming that their logic works the same way yours does. I'm sure other people do things you would never do and vice versa; with that much variation between species, I don't think we have a chance of predicting what aliens would think like, what would draw them to a certain location, et cetera. For all we know, they could be coming here just to watch the terrible stuff we do to each other. Could be alien sport; there's no way of knowing.

                    Regardless, though, I think the fact that we're broadcasting so many radio waves and the like into space would probably be at least worth a look to anyone else out there. That's like standing alone on a beach thinking you're the only one there when someone else shouts at you - doesn't matter if you're a human, mouse, elephant, whatever, you'll probably look to see what made the noise.

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                    • kruger
                      KRUGER GRIPS

                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1915

                      #25
                      I have a passing interest in this subject, so I will throw a coupla things into the pot.

                      People keep talking about the fact that we have been broadcasting radio waves into space for about 100 years or so. And SETI, is looking for broadcasts from outerspace, as an indicator of intelligent life. Just because we have discovered Radio does not mean that anybody, or anything else has done the same. What makes us think that the transmissions that we send out is even being looked for, or even known by any other potential race of beings? Radio is great for short ranges, relativly speaking, but we are talking interstellar distances here. Very inefficient way of communicating.

                      Also, here on earth, all life is based on Carbon. We think that we understand that concept as it applies on Earth. But, why cant a potential alien life form be based on an completly different element? Say, silicone, or Iron? If that is the case, then would we even recognize an alien life form if we saw it? Would the term "biological" even apply? How about the concept of "time"? And, just so everybody understands it, the concept of time is a purly human invention. Time may have no meaning to any other life form that may exist out there.
                      WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.

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                      • LegumeOfTerror
                        Chris The Almighty
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 379

                        #26
                        that's true, but those are all hypothetical. sure, life MIGHT be able to survive without water and not be carbon based, but we dont know that for sure. we do know what life here needs, so it would be smarter to look for those conditions elsewhere, instead of looking for hypothetical conditions not knowing if they even work. start with what you know and refine as you discover new evidence.
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                        • lather
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 591

                          #27
                          I seen something strange in the sky, not saying its an alien spaceship--but the incident led me to be open to the possibility that other intelligences may visit us.
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                          • F-Bomber
                            I survived Castle Anthrax.
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 14

                            #28
                            Originally posted by LK-13

                            No, seeing the way we tend to kill, butcher, rape, torture, mutilate, cannibalize, eviscerate, immolate, and do all other manner of mean nasty things to our own kind;
                            Someone must be working at the Department of Redundantcy Department!

                            Any educated human willing to sit here and make wild conjectjure about such a subject should be declared insane.(Yes, myself included.) There are too many factors to consider for any man or group to claim their answer's superiority over anyone else's. It only becomes an infinte dichotomy based only on imaginary probabilities.

                            (P.S. Their making another Star Trek movie!? )

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                            • Ninjeff
                              it only takes one.
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1205

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LK-13
                              the same thing that happened on Jan. 1, 2000
                              and for the nit pickers again on Jan. 1, 2001
                              some will say it's God's will that we now find out because we have grown yadda yadda yadda...
                              some will say it's a lie, and blasphemy.
                              some will strap bombs to themselves and blow up people that were minding their own business.

                              pretty much business as usual.
                              then spike will show videos of alien life form girls gone wild
                              Fox not to be out done will have an "I'm having an Alien Trailer Parks Baby telethon...
                              ABC will expose the sex scandal in the White House, where a stain was found on a blue aliens dress...
                              Ted Nugent will shoot something.
                              it will be discovered that Pam Anderson's breast implants are actually Alien bacteria colonies.
                              Gene Simmons will sign the Aliens to a record deal then trade mark millions of $$$ worth of merchandise.

                              Best. Response. Ever.


                              Brilliant sir. I sure do hope that all happens.

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