Decrim is up again

[ThePixelGuru]

I think that people downgrade the long term effect of pot. As with most things its pretty hard to study without it being in a vacuum. We know nicotine is deadly, and we know in quantity it can be SEVERELY deadly. However, noone ever dies (noone might be a bad term) from nicotine poisoning, they die from the side effects of smoking. Personally I wonder if this is not simply from the effects of drawing smoke into ones lungs. Does the composition really matter? I'm sure to some degree but not to what.

In the end I think if pot was readily available, and smoked in the quantities cigarettes are you would find that it (and most anything else you can smoke) is just as deadly and likely has very similiar long term consequences.

Actually, tobacco has a couple drugs in it that specifically attack cells and cause cancer - while weed has about five times the amount of tar in it per puff, it's actually less harmful because it won't give you cancer. Granted you're not going to go out and run a marathon after smoking a couple joints, though...

Addictiveness is a hard thing to rate. I doubt anyone would argue that gambling can be addictive, and it in fact has very similiar physical withdrawal symptoms for those addicted as the "classic" addictions. Obviously there are not any foreign chemicals being introduced into the body by gambling. Most people who light up one or two cigarettes do not become addicted. Most people can responsibly handle alchohol. I would, from unprofessional, unscientific observation place weed into the same category. The vast majority of adults can probably handle it without dependency. Then again, I know for a fact that there are a lot of adults out there who can handle use of far harder drugs and seemingly stop cold turkey. I'm sure the anti-drug crowd does not want to hear that.

Very true. I'd wager it depends a lot on not just the drug or the person but the interaction between the two. Still, physical withdrawal from weed is extremely limited. Not nearly as bad as nicotine withdrawal, certainly, and pretty much negligible compared to withdrawals that can kill you, like alcohol. Even meth and heroin won't do that.

I'll support the idea that the federal government banning weed is a bad idea. Though I don't like a lot of the "logic" and "facts" thrown out by a lot of the pro-weed community.

There's not much logic to the situation at all. Either the government bans everything that's bad for people, or they just let people do as they please and hurt themselves if they want. I think you and I are in favor of the latter, but it seems like it would be difficult for anyone to really be in favor of the former. Though there are people out there who want to ban fast food, soda, et cetera...

[SpecialBlend2786]

Addictiveness is a hard thing to rate. I doubt anyone would argue that gambling can be addictive, and it in fact has very similiar physical withdrawal symptoms for those addicted as the "classic" addictions. Obviously there are not any foreign chemicals being introduced into the body by gambling. Most people who light up one or two cigarettes do not become addicted. Most people can responsibly handle alchohol. I would, from unprofessional, unscientific observation place weed into the same category. The vast majority of adults can probably handle it without dependency. Then again, I know for a fact that there are a lot of adults out there who can handle use of far harder drugs and seemingly stop cold turkey. I'm sure the anti-drug crowd does not want to hear that.

This comparison is golden. I still think it's just as easy to get addicted to a certain lifestyle or action as it is to get addicted to a substance that is enjoyable. I remember friends who had stopped smoking being so bored that they just had to light up again.

[Hilltop Customs]

This comparison is golden. I still think it's just as easy to get addicted to a certain lifestyle or action as it is to get addicted to a substance that is enjoyable. I remember friends who had stopped smoking being so bored that they just had to light up again.

Thats true, but its easier to stop any addiction when the chemicals you are ingesting dont create physical dependence. When someone first starts smoking cigarettes they dont keep smoking because they are addicted, the keep doing it because they like it....only after(insert time here) does the body become accustom to having nicotine, and to stop smoking causes withdrawal. Someone whos addicted to paintball(or just and adrenaline junkie) they can love the experience and the rush, but stopping does not cause them any pains other than the feeling "wow Id really want to go play, too bad its raining". Now compare that to cig withdrawal and you will realize there is really no comparison between being "addicted" to something(paintball) and being physically dependent on cigarettes .


If that friend is smoking out of boredom then they really didnt stop smoking then did they? Going through nicotine withdrawal can cause mental time distortions which can make cravings seem to last for hours, which is only amplified by boredom. I have a friend whos quitting right now. I should mention he recently quit smoking pot, he smoked(pot and cigs) daily for over 12 years now. He compared quitting the 2....he said his addiction to weed was like stopping a hot wheels car from running him over, while quitting tobacco has been like a freight train he just cant stop and only has managed to slow down.