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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    What would it take to make the governmetn understand

    Over howls of protest the government passed a 700 billion bailout package that bailed out corporate executives who have taken billions of dollars in incentives and salary to run companies we are all told we depend on into the ground.

    After receiving one bailout AIG executives took a $500K corporate retreat - apparently to congratulate themselves on successfully begging from the taxpayer. Days later, during howls of protest, the government hands over more millions more.

    Doing "business as normal" oil and refining companies make record profits while we pay record prices that are "not their fault" at the pumps.

    At what point will the government and corporate interests be reminded that American society, and the American economy is dependent on those of us that do not make millions of dollars a year? What will we as Americans do?

    Our classic two party system gives us the choice of leaders that most, if totally honest, would like to vote for none of the above

    Historically many countries citizens have demonstrated displeasure with some results using forms of peaceful protest. Despite the calls for "revolution" from some of the extremes peaceful protest, in recent history, has been far more effective and should be.

    However, simple protests are easily ignored. My question is this: are Americans organized enough, couraageous enough, and caring enough to execute a general strike? Would it have results? Is it needed?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • neppo1345
    I Will Eat Your Children..
    • Oct 2005
    • 1913

    #2
    A 'general strike' would send markets crashing even further; it would be disasterous. Once foreign markets lose faith in the United States, we'd be hosed.

    The thing that scares me is with the amount of sheep in this country along with the current volatility, a persuasive community organizer could easily cause an uprising. All it takes is uneducated people and troubled times...both of which the United States has in excess.

    Just my .02

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #3
      Originally posted by neppo1345
      A 'general strike' would send markets crashing even further; it would be disasterous. Once foreign markets lose faith in the United States, we'd be hosed.

      The thing that scares me is with the amount of sheep in this country along with the current volatility, a persuasive community organizer could easily cause an uprising. All it takes is uneducated people and troubled times...both of which the United States has in excess.

      Just my .02
      A general strike would cause a short term blip, especially if it were limited and controlled. The idea is not to crash the system, the idea is to remind those "in charge" that the cogs of the system are required.

      Think in terms of the "day without an illegal" thing - not an intent to cause long term chaos but an intent to show that we, the people, still do have some power.
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • neppo1345
        I Will Eat Your Children..
        • Oct 2005
        • 1913

        #4
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        A general strike would cause a short term blip, especially if it were limited and controlled. The idea is not to crash the system, the idea is to remind those "in charge" that the cogs of the system are required.

        Think in terms of the "day without an illegal" thing - not an intent to cause long term chaos but an intent to show that we, the people, still do have some power.
        I still feel that even a short term action could cause long term reprocussions.

        The U.S. has been the financial rock of the world community for some time because things like that don't happen here on a national scale like they do in Europe.

        I'm no economist, I don't have a degree in anything related to politics, and don't get me wrong; I think something needs to be done. I just fear the long term consequences could throw this country in a direction nobody wants.

        Too much power in the hands of the people is dangerous.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #5
          Actually I agree that there could be issues resulting in a direction nobody wants.

          However, I am more apt to shrug it off with the idea that we are already heading in that direction or the direction we are heading could be even worse. I'll take the unknown of less power at the top, more power with the people over the unknown of current headings.
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #6
            You know though, it might be just paranoa.

            Because, in the end the crash of the credit markets (if it happens) likely will not influence the availability of goods and services used and needed on a day to day basis (food, utilities, etc.). Since my house is already paid for and a lot of my income is spent as disposable (I suck at saving) I could live with a lot less and just have to adjust lifestyle some (a lot).

            What bothers me most is the arrogance of our leadership, both corporate and government. Especially in consideration of what is happening. I don't mind big bonuses for those running successful businesses - they earned it. But for those running a business into the ground?? I could do that .
            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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            • SCpoloRicker
              HA HA I'm custom!!1
              • Jan 2004
              • 4375

              #7
              Do you know who else inspired the general populace during times of economic strain?

              /that's right
              God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #8
                Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                Do you know who else inspired the general populace during times of economic strain?

                /that's right

                How many of the list do you want, and which tyrant are we discussing? There are as many to chose from from about as many countries as you want.

                /Godwins Law FTW
                "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                • Hilltop Customs
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1260

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                  Do you know who else inspired the general populace during times of economic strain?

                  /that's right
                  George W Bush?!?!

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Nearly every official elected during or after an economic downturn? Or, for that matter, during an upswing ala Clinton.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • SCpoloRicker
                      HA HA I'm custom!!1
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lohman446
                      /Godwins Law FTW
                      God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        Thread continues

                        /Quirks exception
                        //
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • Hilltop Customs
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1260

                          #13
                          lol it looks like a nazi breakdancing!!!

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                          • neppo1345
                            I Will Eat Your Children..
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1913

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
                            Do you know who else inspired the general populace during times of economic strain?

                            /that's right
                            I was personally thinking Stalin...

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #15
                              Originally posted by neppo1345
                              I was personally thinking Stalin...
                              You were thinking Lenin I would bet .
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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