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  • maxama10
    Take off every zig!
    • Sep 2004
    • 1497

    #1

    2nd amemdment

    Some members of ar15.com have been trying to do something positive for 2nd Amendment rights since the results of this past election day rolled in. Lots of people are scared about our future. Some are even panicking. I realized something had to be done. So a bunch of us started brain storming and came up with the idea to begin an effort to unite EVERYONE who has an interest in firearms or freedom in general. The purpose will be the rapid dissemination of information if and when anti-gun legislation is introduced in Congress. Rather than having hundreds of pro-gun online forums or organizations which are scattered and fragmented, our intended goal is to have at least one representative from every firearms message board, shooting club, the NRA, the GOA, the Citizen's Committee, manufacturers, dealers, gun shop owners, firearms magazines and publications, gun smiths, and as many gun owners as possible, etc all together under one roof, where we can rapidly plan and counter any threats to our freedom. Each group leader will also have the roll of passing on news to the members of their group. The goal is not to replace or be an alternative to any of these entities that already exist. The goal is to simply make sure that any information or ideas from any one body makes it to everyone else. Our effort isn't about making a profit. We will all be strictly volunteers. And while money may become an issue somewhere down the road (we are discussing hiring a lobbyist), the goal is not to require anyone to pay to become a member at this time or make donations. Instead, send those to the NRA, GOA or Citizen's Committee where they will be best put to use.

    As of right now, me and those who have joined with me in this effort are planning the design of a website and a forum. The website will contain news updates, as well as contact info for all Congressional members at the federal and eventually even the state level. The forum area will have a private section where each group representative will be able to discuss efforts, make plans and make decisions about our direction. It will be an equal partnership and everyone will have an equal say in group matters. There will also be a sub-forum for every state, where planning and coordination of activities can take place at the local level.

    If you would like to see how this all began, how the effort began to blossom and how it evolved, you can read the thread here:


    Enough whining! Enough whimpering! Enough rolling over and simply giving up! Neither of those things are going to get us anywhere. But diligence and planning can. Here is another suggestion for how we


    But in short, if you don't have time to read through that whole thread, we want to create the firearms community equivalent of the Emergency Broadcast System. By having everyone with a firearms interest linked together in a close network, we can rapidly alert all gun owners and freedom loving Americans the moment a bill is introduced in Congress. And then together, we can effectively direct the response to such a situation. Depending on the situation at hand, we will have the ability to send mass emails, mass text messaging, get the information and instructions posted to every firearms website on the net and have everyone working toward the same task in a unified manner to create ONE VOICE. We can swamp the House and Senate leadership with phone calls and emails all at once. We can write and call our own senators and reps. We can plan marches at the state and national level. But by having everyone working together, and that is the key, we can do all of this at a much higher level and with much better coordination and success.

    If you would like to join with us to make a stand for our 2A rights PM me, send an email to [email protected] or sign up and post in the thread linked above at www.ar15.com. Provide your contact info (email will be fine) and someone will let you know when the site and forum are up and running and you can join in. If you wish to represent your business, industry, club, online forum, publication or whatever, please let that be known so you can be granted special access to the private forum that will serve as the group's nucleus. Together we can prevent any future assault weapons bans or other restrictive legislation that threatens our freedom.

    Thank you and God Bless.

    -Max
  • maxama10
    Take off every zig!
    • Sep 2004
    • 1497

    #2
    Here are some links to pre-formed letters you can send to your representatives to oppose any legislation that would tread on our second amendment


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    • Hilltop Customs
      Registered User
      • Aug 2007
      • 1260

      #3
      what are the arguments for the ban? or for gun control in general?

      lead to a safer place? blah blah blah.....any arguments that actually make sense?

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      • MoeMag
        Still here.
        • Dec 2005
        • 1821

        #4
        Apparently these arguments are common sense...

        Who really needs a handgun?
        who really needs a semi auto rifle?
        who really needs more than 10 rounds?

        common sense right?

        Last edited by MoeMag; 11-08-2008, 03:20 PM.

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        • grEnAlEins
          dazed and confused
          • Jul 2002
          • 2864

          #5
          Originally posted by MoeMag
          Apparently these arguments are common sense...

          Who really needs a handgun?
          who really needs a semi auto rifle?
          who really needs more than 10 rounds?

          common sense right?

          You forgot who needs "armor piercing" rounds? And by the way we are expanding the definition of armor piercing to anything that can penetrate Type 1 body armor, which is not NIJ rated for ballistic protection, so this measure would even make the .22LR illegal due to its armor piercing nature

          That one is my favorite Obama plan
          bless, support, and never forget the troops
          God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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          • Hilltop Customs
            Registered User
            • Aug 2007
            • 1260

            #6
            I just want to hear the argument for limiting a persons right to buy something they want.

            Its true guns can be used to bad things, but so can fertilizer....only the person who is buying something can determine if it is going to be used for good or bad. Is it right to inhibit someones right to shoot 30 rounds from their AK if it only used to shoot at paper targets? Who determines when something has a high enough probability of being used for a bad purpose to warrant a ban or legalization.

            The whole idea of enacting a ban on an object, when millions of the objects already exist in the public's hands is stupid and a waste of governments time, and our tax dollars.

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            • Eagle
              The hand of vengence
              • May 2001
              • 950

              #7
              Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
              Its true guns can be used to bad things, but so can fertilizer....
              Fertilizer can be bad? In the great words of Beavis and Butthead-'plop plop plop! hehehehehe!'
              Die Screaming

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              12oz CO2
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              • grEnAlEins
                dazed and confused
                • Jul 2002
                • 2864

                #8
                Originally posted by Eagle
                Fertilizer can be bad?
                Flashback to April 19, 1995 when a Ryder truck packed with primarily fertilizer pulled up to the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City
                bless, support, and never forget the troops
                God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                • grEnAlEins
                  dazed and confused
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2864

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hilltop Customs
                  I just want to hear the argument for limiting a persons right to buy something they want.
                  They are scary dangerous and WILL KILL ALL OF YOUR KIDS!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!! INANIMATE OBJECTS WILL KILL US ALL!! CAPS LOCK TO EMPHASIZE BILLY MAYS TACTICS!!!!1!

                  That about sums the argument up
                  bless, support, and never forget the troops
                  God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                  • maxama10
                    Take off every zig!
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 1497

                    #10
                    I think the argument Obama gives is that the 2nd amendment only protects hunting and sportsmen and that "assault weapons" aka scary black rifles and such are meant to belong in the battle field only.

                    Which is an outright lie.

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                    • grEnAlEins
                      dazed and confused
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2864

                      #11
                      Originally posted by maxama10
                      Which is an outright lie.
                      BUT I CAN SPEAK MORE LOUDLY THAN YOU, AND AM THEREFORE CORRECT!!

                      This is a losing battle. People are far too stupid to get past the rudimentary fear of things that look scary to them or that they do not understand. Very few care about the Constitution anymore. Sad but true
                      bless, support, and never forget the troops
                      God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                      • Hilltop Customs
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1260

                        #12
                        its the direction government is going, expanding, becoming all encompassing, give it a few years and Green will change from a movement to a regulation....its already started.(not saying Green is bad, government forcing something down our throats is)

                        Billy Mays vs Bill O'Reilly....who would win?

                        lol youtube "billy mays gangsta remix" so funny

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                        • grEnAlEins
                          dazed and confused
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2864

                          #13
                          Sadly, this is true.

                          That is a tough one. They both speak in caps lock so they are both equally correct.

                          That vid... I don't know whether to LOL or not... Did not blow my skirt up not that I wera skirts
                          bless, support, and never forget the troops
                          God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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                          • Hilltop Customs
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1260

                            #14
                            ahhh come on you had to find some of the quotes funny....

                            "stop getting out of bed every night, just pee in the closet....with confidence, just pee in the closet. Its that easy"

                            "and we'll send you the worlds most powerful weed, and we'll send you the weed with lightning speed"

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                            • Army
                              Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                              • Oct 2000
                              • 5785

                              #15
                              Join the NRA. So far, 4 million NRA members are doing the work for nearly 100 million gun owners.

                              When the NRA becomes the largest, most powerful lobby in Washington, whose sole purpose is to safeguard the 2nd Amendment, no anti-Constitution legislation would have a chance of passing.

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