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[Lohman446]

Does it guarantee it? No, but it certainly does help.

Are not the majority of serial killers and true psychopaths pretty well educated?

[snoopay700]

Are not the majority of serial killers and true psychopaths pretty well educated?

I would like to see a source about that. And like i said, it doesn't guarantee a civil society, it helps one. They would still be psychopaths if they weren't well educated, but it sounds as if you're saying that being well educated leads to that which isn't the case at all, it just shows that insanity knows no bounds.

[Lohman446]

I would like to see a source about that. And like i said, it doesn't guarantee a civil society, it helps one. They would still be psychopaths if they weren't well educated, but it sounds as if you're saying that being well educated leads to that which isn't the case at all, it just shows that insanity knows no bounds.

To me it shows that education does not "fix" the base problems as the statement "an educated society is a polite society" indicates.

[snoopay700]

To me it shows that education does not "fix" the base problems as the statement "an educated society is a polite society" indicates.

That's not true, if the people who steal and stuff by choice decided to try to get an education or had an education they would no longer be criminals out of necessity. It does cure a lot of the problems, but it also does not guarantee a civil society.

[MANN]

if the people who steal and stuff by choice decided to try to get an education or had an education they would no longer be criminals out of necessity.

You can send a kid to school, but can't make him(her) learn.

Thus making "An armed society makes for a more civil society" hold true.

"educated" people steal also. Madoff and Skilling. Both were educated.

I guess if they put "morals" back into school education it would help tho.

[snoopay700]

You can send a kid to school, but can't make him(her) learn.

Thus making "An armed society makes for a more civil society" hold true.

"educated" people steal also. Madoff and Skilling. Both were educated.

I guess if they put "morals" back into school education it would help tho.

People are taught morals and still go against them. I never said education alone makes for a more civilized society, but it helps. Warbeak said it best, where it takes a mixture of the two. One or the other won't really solve anything completely, and either together they won't solve it completely.

[fierymartel]

If all know that I will shoot them for breaking into my home, then Darwin's theory holds true! We can't prosecute for what people believe, rather only what they act out. We CAN change what they perceive to be true and there by change their actions!

[fierymartel]

Sorry. Kind of trolling!

[Lohman446]

Snoop, look at Leloup's post #8. This is the statement I called out as simply untrue and lacking in... well an educated viewpoint. I know your statement pointed out the truth in warbreak's statement and I realize I posted right under you.

Does anyone not see that the guy writing the story committed far more crimes than the guy who tried to rob him? If this story was true, this is such a shame. And a more armed society does not make a more civil society. A more educated one does.

[Frizzle Fry]

We can't prosecute for what people believe, rather only what they act out.

That's not quite true...

For example, walking up to me on the street and punching me in the face without provocation is illegal and for the sake of discussion let's say that the crime of punching a guy in the face carries up to a 2 year sentence. If you were to walk up to me on the street and punch me in the face without provocation because *I'm Greek* and you hate *Greeks* because of some preconceived notion or stereotype, it can be (and has in the past been) considered a "hate crime" without your having uttered a word about your beliefs while committing the act, or having even stated that you committed the act because of your beliefs.

If performing an illegal action for no reason at all carries a lighter sentence and is a lesser crime than committing the same illegal action with racially/ethnically/religiously/sexually prejudiced thoughts in ones head, then what is the additional punishment for? Granted, committing physically violent acts for any reason other than defense (in the greater sense of the word) is deplorable, but can you really punish people for their thoughts in addition to the crime?




*I'm actually Greek, I doubt that'd stand up in court as a hate crime, but it's an example for discussions sake*

[Dend78]

honestly it doesnt matter what you do some things may help but there will always be arsehats in the world it doesnt matter how smart you make them or how many holes you put in them you cant fix stupid

[snoopay700]

Snoop, look at Leloup's post #8. This is the statement I called out as simply untrue and lacking in... well an educated viewpoint. I know your statement pointed out the truth in warbreak's statement and I realize I posted right under you.

Oh, gotcha, i thought you were saying that in response to both of us since i sort of echoed his sentiments somewhat.