Arizona to Allow Concealed Weapons Without Permit !

[going_home]

Arizona is joining Alaska and Vermont to be the 3rd state allowing
people to carry a concealed weapon without requiring a permit.

BRAVO !

This should be all 50 states !
Criminals would once again fear law abiding citizens
and crime rates would plummet.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100416/ap_on_re_us/us_xgr_concealed_weapons_arizona

Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill making Arizona the third state allowing people to carry a concealed weapon without requiring a permit.

"I believe this legislation not only protects the Second Amendment rights of Arizona citizens, but restores those rights as well," Brewer, a Republican, said in a statement.

[chafnerjr]

Yea, for freedom, but I like the licensing process that we have here. Was it a big pain in the arse for AZ residents?

[behemoth]

THE STREETS WILL RUN RED WITH BLOOD!!!!!!1111ONE!!@#$!@#!

[indymag]

Devil's Advocate here........

When you do not require a permit, you allow people who shouldn't carry carry without worry of being checked. I'm not saying they wouldn't carry anyways, but you're taking the conceived punishment out of carrying illegally.

That being said, I carry here in Indiana. A lot of the time I "open" carry when I'm only wearing a t-shirt. I get a lot of looks and some comments, but I can easily whip out my permit and show that I'm legal.

I totally love the fact that they are giving us our rights back, but it has some potential to backfire. I just hope that decent citizens put the fear into the criminals and make them GTFO of there.

Now for these silly Class 3 laws...

[MoeMag]

Hi. AZ CCW holder since 2006

YAY!... oh wait....

No the permit process wasn't a pain in the butt. 8 hour course, 10 shots at 5 and 10 yards must hit on paper. other than that... no big deal.

Finger prints, $60 bucks... BAM! ya have a permit.

They did run a background check... and your record had to be pretty much spotless when it comes to felony and criminal misdemeanor.

My biggest question now is... do they have to call me in when I buy a gun again? Or is my CCW still good for something? Will other states still honor my CCW? I don't know yet... but I will be finding out tomorrow. If I can't carry in reciprocal states now because Arizona doesn't have a permit anymore I'm gonna be a little irritated. (trips to NRA Whittington center in New Mexico mainly)

I thought I would be excited about this... but I don't know now. I think people who carry should be aware of the laws and responsibility of doing so.

but then again... apparently its a right to keep and bear (certain) arms so who am I to say anything.

Agreed... down with NFA and Class 3!!! then I will be happy.

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EDIT:
from www.azccw.netbar that serves alcohol. They would also be needed if an Arizonan wants to carry his or her gun concealed in most other states."

Okay I'm cool.

[Fred]

Wow... A little suprised you can carry in a bar with the permit!

[Lohman446]

Devil's Advocate here........

When you do not require a permit, you allow people who shouldn't carry carry without worry of being checked. I'm not saying they wouldn't carry anyways, but you're taking the conceived punishment out of carrying illegally.

That being said, I carry here in Indiana. A lot of the time I "open" carry when I'm only wearing a t-shirt. I get a lot of looks and some comments, but I can easily whip out my permit and show that I'm legal.

I totally love the fact that they are giving us our rights back, but it has some potential to backfire. I just hope that decent citizens put the fear into the criminals and make them GTFO of there.

Now for these silly Class 3 laws...

Those who shouldn't carry are likely already illegally in possession of the gun. Making yet another law for them to violate while violating the first (and then not punishing them for either violation) puts an undue and unjust burden on law abiding citizens to follow new laws.

[Ando]

Wow... A little suprised you can carry in a bar with the permit!

I guess it depends on the state but if I remember correctly in TX, you can't carry a firearm into a place of business like the local 7-11 or a establishment that serves alcohol. That was Christ...10 yrs ago since I read that so I don't know if it changed.

Those who shouldn't carry are likely already illegally in possession of the gun. Making yet another law for them to violate while violating the first (and then not punishing them for either violation) puts an undue and unjust burden on law abiding citizens to follow new laws.

Those that shouldn't carry are going to anyways...law or no law.

[Will Wood]

Yea, I think it's funny that Vermont has the no permit law.

I'd be suprised if more than a dozen people were even carrying in the state.

[warbeak2099]

I'd rather have to get a permit. I think in order to get that permit you should have to pass some kind of psych test. That being said, I fully plan on doing all the work to get one legally once I finish with school and move down to VA. I just think that you should have to earn it, not that it be given to you. Yea criminals will carry anyways, but with a strict law in place, it separates them from those of us who want to carry in order to legally protect ourselves and our fellow citizens. I'm just not real comfortable with this.

[Lohman446]

Yea, I think it's funny that Vermont has the no permit law.

I'd be suprised if more than a dozen people were even carrying in the state.

Vermont is "different". They tend towards being pretty socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They are the closest state to libertarian I can think of.

[Lohman446]

I'd rather have to get a permit. I think in order to get that permit you should have to pass some kind of psych test. That being said, I fully plan on doing all the work to get one legally once I finish with school and move down to VA. I just think that you should have to earn it, not that it be given to you. Yea criminals will carry anyways, but with a strict law in place, it separates them from those of us who want to carry in order to legally protect ourselves and our fellow citizens. I'm just not real comfortable with this.

Criminals should not have owned the gun in the first place. No reason to 'stack' the crimes against otherwise law abiding citizens.

[drg]

Yea, I think it's funny that Vermont has the no permit law.

I'd be suprised if more than a dozen people were even carrying in the state.

Vermont is "different". They tend towards being pretty socially liberal but fiscally conservative. They are the closest state to libertarian I can think of.

Odd how it's also the only state that elects an actual socialist to congress.

[behemoth]

From what I understand, Arizona still has a CCW permit available for those who wish to carry out of state, etc.

But, to carry in AZ, you dont need one.

[Lohman446]

Odd how it's also the only state that elects an actual socialist to congress.

It also has the strongest secessionist movement in the country, and may even elect some who have openly stated it in the upcoming election. Its just different. Different good...