So...How's it going?

[Nobody]

Ever wonder why there are no Democrats on Mt Rushmore?




Me, neither.

Except one could argue that today's republican party is not what it was 100 years ago...

Though, you might want to check your facts.

Washington- Federalist party
Jefferson- Democratic-Republican
Lincoln- Democratic-Republican
Roosevelt- Republican

I see 2 democrats there. Yet another thing you were lied about.

Though the parties did change over the years, so democrats took over the stance held by republicans and vice versa. So if you go into the history of how the democratic party wanted to keep slavery going.We'll, Washington and Jefferson, kept it going. One could say just like today's republican party. And Lincoln was a progressive, as he was forced to, but also finally believed in emancipation of the slaves. A very progressive approach to the civil discord of the nation. So Lincoln wasn't a conservative in what he did.

So, do you just read the letter, or do you put the check mark next to what they did?

[Nobody]

Only an uninformed, lying liberal would say he was convicted of 34 counts of election fraud when he wasnt. Where did you learn that? On the View? MSDNC? CNN? take your pick.

No, I read the court reports from the state of New York.

Wow, lift your head out of the sand. This is a fact. He was convicted in the "Hush Money"/Stormy Daniels case, which was about election interferring or fraud. You don't have to like it, you don't have to agree, but a fact, is a fact. He went to trial, was presumed innocent and Trump had every opportunity to prove his innocence but 12 jurors found him guilty on all counts. And he has to have a sentencing trial on July 11. This is a fact, as the sky is blue, as the grass is green.

[Nobody]

Do you mean like Bill Clinton?

Was there a trial? Was there a conviction? And if you say, "what about the Impeachment?", then that would mean that trump was doubly guilty.

... and right there is the root of the problem. You (and your type) are blaming an inanimate object. I have never seen a gun (which I have many for many years) take aim and pull it's own trigger. Talk about the real problem, VIOLENT PEOPLE. They will use all kinds of tools to commit violence, guns, knives, cars, pencils....the list is lengthy.

This exactly where you loose any shred of credibility you may have had.

You are correct. A gun is merely a tool. It does take a person to pull the trigger and do damage. But the gun is still dangerous, and should be only available to those that show that level of responsibility. So the people that have domestic violence charges should not be allowed. Those that have mental illnesses, shouldn't be allowed. All states should have red flag laws, so that the citizens can protect that person and themselves.

But it is the right, that doesn't want to put any limits. Whether they are being paid by lobbyists to keep those laws off the books, or just that it is tiring for parents to keep burying their children with all the thoughts and prayers.

So, by limiting the access to weapons, you will limit the violence.

You make bold claims without any proof, yet you expect everyone around you to prove everything.

You are either adversarial (for the sake of it) or an idiot (which you prove regularly).

So, if I link to empirical data, would you read it? Honestly, would you? As you have stated, you think everything I say/type is a lie, and wouldn't believe any possible facts, sowhy would I waste my time? You still think that AR means assualt rifle.

They did and YOUR president undid them. Plain and simple. YOU people BROKE IT! Build back better was a complete joke.

Undid what? He actually kept the trump border policy going. And again when the Republicans were presented with a new border bill that met all the republican wants and none of the democrats, the Republicans stopped it.

The great lie, just like all those people that were going to testify against Hilary suicided themselves in the back of the head, or Ebstein did hang himself but where the camera footage. Funny how that camera stopped working for a brief moment.

God, you are such a sheep.

Don't you mean, all those people were killed or made to look like suicides?

If that were the case, why didn't Hilary win the 2008 nomination and presidency? Or even in 2016? Or maybe you can string a bunch of possible deaths of a loosely grouped of people that died. Some by accidents, like a plane crash, stupidity like getting run over by a train, I believe, and then those super suspicious people who died of natural causes.

And the camera stopped because the DOC is an underfunded branch of government and stuff is not taken care of.

And as munch as Epstein's death might implicate Clinton, it would also implicate trump. There is video of trump on Epstein's island and homes.

[Pyrate Jim]

OMG the debate was a debacle.
I was halfway through the bottle of rum beffore the firste commercial break.

[going_home]

OMG the debate was a debacle.
I was halfway through the bottle of rum beffore the firste commercial break.

I only made it thru half hour and went to bed.

But I did see a great Trump quote :

"I don't know what he said at the end, and I don't think he knows either"



The people saw the real Joe Biden on display.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Was there a trial? Was there a conviction? And if you say, "what about the Impeachment?", then that would mean that trump was doubly guilty.



You are correct. A gun is merely a tool. It does take a person to pull the trigger and do damage. But the gun is still dangerous, and should be only available to those that show that level of responsibility. So the people that have domestic violence charges should not be allowed. Those that have mental illnesses, shouldn't be allowed. All states should have red flag laws, so that the citizens can protect that person and themselves.

But it is the right, that doesn't want to put any limits. Whether they are being paid by lobbyists to keep those laws off the books, or just that it is tiring for parents to keep burying their children with all the thoughts and prayers.

So, by limiting the access to weapons, you will limit the violence.



So, if I link to empirical data, would you read it? Honestly, would you? As you have stated, you think everything I say/type is a lie, and wouldn't believe any possible facts, sowhy would I waste my time? You still think that AR means assualt rifle.



Undid what? He actually kept the trump border policy going. And again when the Republicans were presented with a new border bill that met all the republican wants and none of the democrats, the Republicans stopped it.



Don't you mean, all those people were killed or made to look like suicides?

If that were the case, why didn't Hilary win the 2008 nomination and presidency? Or even in 2016? Or maybe you can string a bunch of possible deaths of a loosely grouped of people that died. Some by accidents, like a plane crash, stupidity like getting run over by a train, I believe, and then those super suspicious people who died of natural causes.

And the camera stopped because the DOC is an underfunded branch of government and stuff is not taken care of.

And as munch as Epstein's death might implicate Clinton, it would also implicate trump. There is video of trump on Epstein's island and homes.

You just go on believing your dribble, no one else does...

[Nobody]

A Presidential debate in about six hours. Between two "presumptive" candidates, not "actual" candidates.
Neither has been decided by their respective party. Ignoring the elephant in the room, it is the truth.
I've been seeing lots of talk on various feeds over who is going to say or do what. Like MSNBC already "fact checking" what Trump will say in the debate that hasn't happened yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30H9qMZtCdY

Like, wow! They know before it happens! Maybe they can give me tomorrows lottery numbers.
I bought an extra bottle of rum to watch tonight. It's going to be an epic disaster.

When you don't have anything to go on, you speculate. This is the same thing that sportscasters do when talking about a game, a series, the playoffs. They go and game it out in their heads, and try to say what will happen. It's fortune telling. Everyone does it, it is not one sided. Sometimes it is spot on, other times it looks like a dumpster fire. So, when there is nothing to talk about, you make something to talk about.

[Pyrate Jim]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xl0nLEnpbWA

[Nobody]

You just go on believing your dribble, no one else does...

And that is why having an adult conversation is so hard with you. I guess act like a 60y/o child I will have to treat you like one. Christ, you are close to being back into diapers, so that part is easy.

But that fact that, not so much you aren't trying to hold a conversation with what I say, it is the fact that when pressed to stand with what you believe, you fail at even an intelligent response. You are literally making anything you say, you believe in as meaningless. Your politics is a joke, cause you cannot, when your feet are put to the fire, even take any sort of criticism or contrary facts. So you have little to no cache in really anything. And that is sad. Not because you are a boomer, but as a individual who should hold respect in the community, you have absolutely nothing.

[going_home]

So Doug, how did you like the debate ?

What are your thoughts ?

Do you think Joe would make it thru a second term ?

What do you think the Democrats should do ?

Tee up another candidate ?

[Nobody]

So Doug, how did you like the debate ?

Only watch the first hour. Left for work, qnd missed the final third.

What are your thoughts ?

Trump couldn't answer any question.

Do you think Joe would make it thru a second term ?

Why not? Health wise, he is fine.

What do you think the Democrats should do ?

Hammer down on their policies that they have in place, call out all the republicans' failures to perform and how the republicans wish to take away more rights away from the citizens.

Tee up another candidate ?

Biden had beat trump once before, and nothing trump does will change that in the future.

The debate was no problem for Biden. Get the message out and call on trump's constant lies. Show the populace that there are polices, positions and the changes people want to come in the 2nd term. Shore up the house and Senate, to gain back the majorities, that way the Democrats will be able to apply the changes that the majority wants/needs. Basically, go from success to success.

[Tunaman]

Only watch the first hour. Left for work, qnd missed the final third.



Trump couldn't answer any question.



Why not? Health wise, he is fine.



Hammer down on their policies that they have in place, call out all the republicans' failures to perform and how the republicans wish to take away more rights away from the citizens.



Biden had beat trump once before, and nothing trump does will change that in the future.

The debate was no problem for Biden. Get the message out and call on trump's constant lies. Show the populace that there are polices, positions and the changes people want to come in the 2nd term. Shore up the house and Senate, to gain back the majorities, that way the Democrats will be able to apply the changes that the majority wants/needs. Basically, go from success to success.

Like I already told you. If you dye your hair purple and scream at the sky alot of your symptoms will go away. BAAAAAAAA!

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Why not? Health wise, he is fine.

As much as I agree with you on a lot of things I don't know how you can say that in good faith. Biden is a walking disaster as a president. Jimmy Carter on the Colbert show at 93 (6 years ago) was in far better shape than Biden is right now. The guy appears 1 foot away from needing a full time nanny. Half the time watching him it seems like "controller disconnected". Heck some folks are even making posts like "Jimmy Carter you only served one term.... "

Bewildering that anyone is defending either candidate in this thread.

[Pyrate Jim]

Bewildering that anyone is defending either candidate in this thread.

Might defend other candidates if there were other candidates.
The System is set up to give a choice, either A or B. (Or C, but no third party ever got anywhere against the big two)
It used to be a choice of bad or good, now it's between bad and worse.
I also believe that you should vote because if you don't use it, someone else will.

[Nobody]

Might defend other candidates if there were other candidates.
The System is set up to give a choice, either A or B. (Or C, but no third party ever got anywhere against the big two)
It used to be a choice of bad or good, now it's between bad and worse.
I also believe that you should vote because if you don't use it, someone else will.

This is solidarity of the 2 party system, where they actively keep it 2 parties, by the 2 parties. In a world where you can have unlimited choices, both parties want to keep their power of your choice.

But to say that someone would use your vote if you don't use it is wrong. There is no significant voter fraud happening. While it does happen, it is not in any significance to alter any election. In 2020, there were literal handfuls of people committing that, ironically all were trump voters. So unless you have evidence, real evidence that would stand up in a court of law, you can say that there is no one using your votes, other than yourself.