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That is all fine and good. I didn't see any mention of Bill Clinton ("I did not have sexual relations with that women". My cigar did though, and the infamous blue dress) or any of the other Kennedy's on your list. Then there is $850,000.00 paid to Paula Jones. Just trying to illustrate that this type of stuff happens on BOTH sides of the aisle. Please don't loose sight of that before you start to regurgitate facts.
Please tell me what is wrong with "Make America Great Again". I am all ears.
Did you forget that even our currency states "In God We Trust"? God is an all encompassing reference to deity. Jesus, Allah, Buddha or any other "gods" that people turn to are specific to their beliefs. You seem to be smart, you probably already realize this.......You know you want one!!Comment
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I think most politicians are full of it however it's rare to hear from most democrats hate mongering or borderline hate mongering speeches. What party is always opposing gay/trans/LGBTQ rights? For a party that constantly preaches about how government should not interfere with a person's life, they do a good job of it. How about the party who loves to be pro life who doesn't a **** about kids after they are born? Republicans are very much against universal health care (despite the fact that we pay far more than any other country for sub standard health care) and they don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. While i'm not a fan of the democratic party, they at least seem to have a shred of compassion for people who aren't walking lemmings of their same ilk. https://www.thenation.com/article/po...-carolina-gop/
Please tell me what is wrong with "Make America Great Again". I am all ears. Oh i don't know..... maybe making up fraudulent claims about an election and then trying to overthrow it? Maybe mishandling classified information after you went on and on about how people who do it should be in jail. Perhaps trying to pull some quid pro quo with Ukraine to investigate a political opponent and getting impeached for it while you have on record some republicans who say they didn't impeach him because "he learned his lesson". Putting a former heroin addict who barely has a functioning brain in charge of public safety. Perhaps putting a guy who was under investigation by the house to be attorney general. Should I go on? Certainly not going to be any conflicts of interest with Elon Musk and his potential slashing of government programs/budgets/agencies. I don't see an issue with saying you're recruiting people for a job that demands 80 hours a week and pays zero salary... Lots of qualified unbias people are lining up for that job.
I do have a problem with "in god we trust" on our currency because that's not a separation of church and state. That slogan came way after the constitution was written and clearly is in defiance of it.Comment
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And your point is what, that both sides do it? Loads of people are awful human beings so I don't see the relevance of this point.
Republicans constantly beat the drum of religion, it's partly why they are elected. Lauren Boebert and MTG are two idiots who constantly spout hateful garbage who are self proclaimed religious.
If you have to go back to Clinton to remember a democrat politician who preached religion as a moral set of values you're trying too hard.
Find me an article that has a democrat spewing hateful garbage about people. Then do a search about what hateful garbage republicans spew.
If you can't find what's wrong with "Make America Great Again" I don't know what to tell you. Certainly no one with any religious principles would actually vote for Trump.
I really do truly hope you guys are right and that Trump is going to "Make America Great Again" but I'd bet money on it being way worse off by the time he is done.Comment
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Point being that the last 4 years were bad for the country and as a whole we were looking for something else.
It appears that most of the country was as well...
Electoral and Popular
I am hoping that this was the right choice. IMHO the other choice was clearly not.
2024 Election Map.jpg......You know you want one!!Comment
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Oh no, moral indignation. Clinton screwed around and what, he got empeached and his base and power grew? John Edward's got caught and his political career blew up. So are you saying that democrats only, have to be pure of heart and pure of deeds, while republicans can literally be a felon and still get elected? Anyone who gains power and notoriety in a political group is surely going to have skeletons, as well as well hidden traits that are morally repugnant.
'Make America Great Again '. Let's see, the slogan was taken from Reagan, who ran under that in the 80 election. So, not even original. But it is an ambiguous slogan that has no clear definition. It does not define where we are or where it should take us. Loosely, it means that we have fallen in stature or position, but why? We are the richest country, the best medical science, we have done so much in space exploration, we pushed the tech lead in multiple aspects and we have the best military. So with the lack of definition, you are supposed to put it up against your own personal grievance, contrary to the actual truth. Basically, a mantra that represents nothing. Kinda like the Socialist workers party that the Nazis called themselves in the 20s in Germany. They were neither socialist, nor for the workers, and not for all the people.
So did Eisenhower push "in God We trust" as hoping to push religion as a good thing or was it a political move against the godless communists, protraiting the West for God, and the Soviets as against it? So I hate to tell you but the US was around longer without those words than with them. And if you consider that money or greed, goes against the concept of money or greed, it is kind of word or even ideal of God and all his grace.Comment
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Good point.
MAP says it all.....
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Well I wouldn't consider the electoral college to be a particular strong point of reference, it really needs to go at this point but I'm digressing.
Regardless he did win the popular won so there's really no arguing about the validity of his future presidency. Well unless......moving along.
That map isn't particularly indicative of too much of anything. Large portions of this country live on the coasts: https://www.census.gov/library/visua...tion-2020.html
For example Washington and Oregon are both blue and both eastern WA (outside of Spokane) and Oregon are sparsely populated. Well really that is about almost the entire western US, sparsely populated outside of the major cities.
In regards to Trump's future presidency besides immigration/border (with parts I do and don't agree with) what else is there?
President Trump can now do whatever unethical things he deems fit as long as they are "official acts", whatever that means.
Let's start with what has already came out. You could argue that his chief of staff is a DEI hire, first woman to be a chief of staff. The only half way decent selection is Marco Rubio for secretary of state. It is clearly obvious that Trump wants people who will pledge fealty to him while he is in office. Is that what you would consider to be a sign of great leadership?
Elon Musk is already mucking around as some sort of quasi unauthorized diplomat. Elon Musk has no business being involved in government unless he will sell off all his assets, which we all know he won't. Massive conflicts of interest there. Lockheed Martin / Northrop Grumman / etc. should be lining up to sue the government as soon as possible once that DOGE branch is official.
Already off to a great start.Comment
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Would you prefer "In Government We Trust"?
First written in 1802 by Thomas Jefferson describing how religion is between an individual and their own belief, and Gov't should not intervene in their choice. That's the separation.
The first amendment simply states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".
Think about it democratically. Around 70% of Americans are demographically labelled as Catholic/Christians. I was raised that way, then I grew up.
If anything, it establishes that there is something greater to trust in than our government.
The phrase "In God We Trust" does not even come close to establishing a State sponsored religion much less a Religion sponsored State. We don't live under Sharia Law yet.CT Co-ordinator, Paintball MarshalsComment
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It doesn't need to say anything other than what the currency is worth. Like wise the pledge of allegiance doesn't belong in schools either.
Why does it say "In God We Trust" on money?
In Antebellum America, it was considered unconstitutional to place "In God We Trust" on currency as it may have violated the First Amendment. During the Civil War, however, in response to increased religious fervor, Congress passed legislation to allow for the motto to be used on coins.Comment
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Oh goody, I love when people start to throw around Jefferson quotes without understanding anything about them man.
Well, another way you could read that quote is, that the Government is under no mandate to have, or establish any one religion above any other. Many of the founding fathers, Jefferson included, did not practice what we would consider today, a Christian religion. He had his personal beliefs and in his personal Bible wrote what he thinks of his version of religion. You could consider it more foundational.
But if you look at Jefferson personally, he would write about many things that were taking as progressive, but then do the direct opposite, like calling for the end of slavery. Which in his personal life, kept and dealt in the slave trade up until his death. So, he can be considered to be 2 faced, or not a man whokept his convictions on morals. Now, you can say that you are judging him by modern standards, we're as I judge him by his own actions, about how he wrote that the 2 races shouldn't be mixed, but fathered several children with Sally Hemmings, beginning when she was barely into womanhood.
By the mere fact that through the establishment of the separation of Church and State, it does not matter what you, or I or a so called majority believe in on the religion question. Religion has no baring in how the government runs. And though, there are times where government may infringe upon a person's personal beliefs, either through the courts or by other means, a compromise will be met.
Also, because of that same separation, not any one religion, no matter how big a majority might be, should be predominant over any other. You can argue what a religion is, from the well established judeo-christian, Muslim, and eastern religions that are far older than christ, to practices like voodoo or scientology(praise Venoo, lol), but in the end, that separation still means that they are all the same in the government's eyes.
Yet, you have multiple states trying to push one religion in public schools. Where is the separation in that? So while you keep saying that, we" don't live under Sharia Law yet", you are awfully quiet on what some might consider the same oppression, just from the other side.Comment
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Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.Comment
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cool.
Ya know for a guy who quotes the bible a lot... seems very contradictory to vote for an adulterer.
Nevermind that he's a felon, fraud, con man, divorcee, hate monger....
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