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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #271
    Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...77a4972d&ei=16

    What's wrong with this? people have been praying since the last mass killing/mass shooting and the heart, metaphorically, plays no part in this.
    One person speaks out against "gun violence" after a horrible incident with an emphasis on the violence part instead of the gun part, and over 100 Democrat lawmakers signed a letter claiming it is factually wrong. it doesn't matter if one more person speaks out against the violence, when NOTHING IS DONE to STOP the violence. bravo. This is a textbook example of a strawman argument. While a firearm is a tool, and you can surely kill someone with a plethora of items found items found in any ACEHardware. It is the mere fact that nothing kills faster and easier, than a gun. Add to the fact that little in regards to mental health, whether it is the stigma of possibly having a mental problem, or the shear fact that the medical field is severely underfunded to handle all of the possible cases that could turn violent. It is only exacerbated by the ease of some states to not only allow people with possible mental defects buy or retain firearms or it is the lack of police ability, coordination laws that allow them, to secure said firearmsfrom people who not only harm themselves but others.

    The will to allow anyone to possess a gun severly outweights the ideal of people of this country to NOT have to live in fear of themselves, their family, their friends and loved ones to end up a statistic of a shooting.

    Ironically, Maine is an open carry or concealed carry state, yet it is another case against only a gun can stop a shooting.
    Replies in the colour of spilled blood of innocent victims

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    • Pyrate Jim
      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
      • May 2002
      • 1052

      #272
      Thanx for the welcome back.
      CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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      • Loguzzzzzz
        Practice Target

        • Sep 2004
        • 2121

        #273
        ......You know you want one!!

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        • Loguzzzzzz
          Practice Target

          • Sep 2004
          • 2121

          #274
          The REAL crux of the matter.
          ....can't wait (I think you know what I mean)
          ......You know you want one!!

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          • Nobody
            Nobody's Perfect
            • Oct 2001
            • 3384

            #275
            Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
            The REAL crux of the matter.
            ....can't wait (I think you know what I mean)
            Huh, and here you always said that you don't follow mainstream media...

            Just because it's on YouTube doesn't make it any less so, but your hypocrisy is always self-evident. Good job!

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            • Pyrate Jim
              Shi Tamajutsu Ka
              • May 2002
              • 1052

              #276
              I agreed with about 80% of what Speaker Johnson was saying. The rest was bringing the church into the state.
              I have no interest in anyone's belief structures. I just want the separation of church and state we were promised, and the freedom to choose our own religion without repercussion or persecution.

              I look at mainstream media. I also question what I see. Like this article;


              Can you see a discrepancy? Is it a container ship or is it a military vessel? With this quote ~
              Footage on social media showed protesters at the Port of Oakland chanting messages in support of Palestinians and calling for Israel to withdraw from Gaza. Some people were seen climbing onto the container carrier Cape Orlando, while others locked themselves to the ship.
              I come from a Navy family. If this had been an American Military ship, there is no way protesters are climbing aboard, much less chaining themselves to it. And certainly never going to "detain it".
              Either the headline lies or the article itself is a lie. Until I have corroborating evidence, I know which side of the fence I'm on. The question is: What do YOU believe?
              CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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              • Pyrate Jim
                Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                • May 2002
                • 1052

                #277
                Here is another one.


                I don't get it. A democratic run city where the ruling portion does not want a democratic vote on a very immediate problem. Referring to a citywide referendum as "chaos" and refusing to listen to will of the people? Doesn't sound very democratic to me.
                CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                • Loguzzzzzz
                  Practice Target

                  • Sep 2004
                  • 2121

                  #278
                  Originally posted by Nobody
                  Huh, and here you always said that you don't follow mainstream media...

                  Just because it's on YouTube doesn't make it any less so, but your hypocrisy is always self-evident. Good job!
                  You have disappointed me... I expected a Hannity rant.
                  It was a news story. Just sharing you can say it but it doesn't make it so. I am anything but a hypocrite, but you go on thinking what you want, you will anyways. Even when presented with fact, deny deny deny......


                  I was actually trying to point out that this was the first time I heard a politician admit that the gun can't run off and kill people. It is a heartless America that is doing that.

                  I agree with you Jim, loved most of what he said but always believe that the separation of church and state should be maintained. I don't really care what anyone believes and ask for the same courtesy.
                  ......You know you want one!!

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                  • Nobody
                    Nobody's Perfect
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 3384

                    #279
                    Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                    You have disappointed me... I expected a Hannity rant. why? Do you need me to tell you that he is pretty much a moron and a nazi?
                    It was a news story. 1st mistake. Since it was after 7pm, it is not news but opinion. Hannity has stated that he is no journalist and should not be held to those standards. Just sharing you can say it but it doesn't make it so. you share aomething like this because it is what you believe, supports what yoj say or shows your opinion. But that does not hide your hypocrisy, when you have vehemently stated tbat you don't watch mainstream media. I am anything but a hypocrite, but you go on thinking what you want, you will anyways. itruth hurts doesn't it? If you cannot hold what you have stated, don't dismiss anyone who thrn holds the mirror up to you. Even when presented with fact, deny deny deny...... so is this an admission thrn? You are presented with a factual statement that you said, but when confronted you deny it? Just admit that you eat dinner to jesse waters and greg gutfield tucks you in at bedtime. Me personally, I'd rather have Stephanie Ruhle tuck me


                    I was actually trying to point out that this was the first time I heard a politician admit that the gun can't run off and kill people. It is a heartless America that is doing that. well, most people already know that fact.

                    I agree with you Jim, loved most of what he said but always believe that the separation of church and state should be maintained. I don't really care what anyone believes and ask for the same courtesy. psst, if you believe that, why do you vote for and support those that wish to take away those rights?
                    Green for the new deal

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                    • Pyrate Jim
                      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                      • May 2002
                      • 1052

                      #280
                      Politicians hearing facts on firearms, maybe they will listen:
                      CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                      • Pyrate Jim
                        Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                        • May 2002
                        • 1052

                        #281
                        How about some good old fear mongering.


                        The B61-13 has a yield of 364KT, roughly 24 times the Hiroshima bomb at 15KT.
                        Oh, my! Time to panic.
                        Even though it's pointed out that 364KT is nearly identical to B61-7, which has been in the U.S. arsenal since the 1960's, no mention that arsenal (and those of other countries) also contains weapons measured in Megatons which are far more powerful than anything in the Kiloton range.
                        Just forget about those, this is the one to worry about. The one that starts a nuclear war! Time to panic and start digging those shelters.
                        During decades of testing, the U.S. set off over 1,000 atomic bombs on U.S. soil, water & air. We've bombed ourselves more than any other Nation.
                        The largest U.S detonation was Castle Bravo at 15 Megatons (100 times bigger than Hiroshima) and U.S.S.R. tripled that with T'sar Bomba.
                        The B61-13 is only an upgrade to an older weapon. The U.S. is currently refurbishing old cores into new casings and has been for a while. Just why is this one is such a cause for creating panic?

                        The size of the B61-13 isn't a problem, it's the decision to use it that scares me. I don't mean just our President ~ it's the others who have access to and more than enough willingness to employ one.

                        Maybe I should lay odds on which country gets a stiff finger first and pushes the button? Or who is first attacked? At this point there's a half dozen picks for both.
                        Like there isn't enough to worry about without folks screaming "Doomsday!" every few days.

                        <edit to add>
                        In the "Everything you can do, I can do better" department...
                        Last edited by Pyrate Jim; 11-05-2023, 12:15 PM.
                        CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                        • Nobody
                          Nobody's Perfect
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 3384

                          #282
                          Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                          How about some good old fear mongering.


                          The B61-13 has a yield of 364KT, roughly 24 times the Hiroshima bomb at 15KT.
                          Oh, my! Time to panic.
                          Even though it's pointed out that 364KT is nearly identical to B61-7, which has been in the U.S. arsenal since the 1960's, no mention that arsenal (and those of other countries) also contains weapons measured in Megatons which are far more powerful than anything in the Kiloton range.
                          Just forget about those, this is the one to worry about. The one that starts a nuclear war! Time to panic and start digging those shelters.
                          During decades of testing, the U.S. set off over 1,000 atomic bombs on U.S. soil, water & air. We've bombed ourselves more than any other Nation.
                          The largest U.S detonation was Castle Bravo at 15 Megatons (100 times bigger than Hiroshima) and U.S.S.R. tripled that with T'sar Bomba.
                          The B61-13 is only an upgrade to an older weapon. The U.S. is currently refurbishing old cores into new casings and has been for a while. Just why is this one is such a cause for creating panic?

                          The size of the B61-13 isn't a problem, it's the decision to use it that scares me. I don't mean just our President ~ it's the others who have access to and more than enough willingness to employ one.

                          Maybe I should lay odds on which country gets a stiff finger first and pushes the button? Or who is first attacked? At this point there's a half dozen picks for both.
                          Like there isn't enough to worry about without folks screaming "Doomsday!" every few days.

                          <edit to add>
                          In the "Everything you can do, I can do better" department...
                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...f51d77f1&ei=55
                          What a ludicrous post. You are worried NOW? What about the guy that wanted to use a nuclear weapon against a hurricane? What was his name again? It will come to me. It wasn't Obama, it isn't Biden. Dunya wanted to search for them but never found them. So who is it I am thinking of?

                          Anyway. The true fact of that article, which I am surprised had any truth, is that this is a routine upgrade and servicing. As it was stated, including yourself Jym, that the weapons are from the 60s. So they are old and out of date. Cause there are o ly a few thi gs from that decade that are worth caring about. But more importantly, this is not an increase in the number of weapons, nor is it an increase of warheads.

                          If you read any doctrinal papers on US nuclear weapon deployment, you would know that the US prefers to use smaller yield but more accurate weapon delivery systems, in order to do the most damage to military targets but plausibly spare destructive damage to civilian infrastructure, in a nuclear war. So it's not who has the biggest bomb, more of putting many bombs where they can do the most damage.

                          So this is really nothing and exactly what you first said, fear mongering. Cause I am not worried about that. I live in 1 of 3 fall out areas(NYC, DC & Philly), so I am caught in the blast or fallout area of 1 if not, all 3.

                          But what I am more worried about are all the bombs the US government has lost over the years. That is more scary.

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                          • Loguzzzzzz
                            Practice Target

                            • Sep 2004
                            • 2121

                            #283
                            Originally posted by Nobody
                            Green for the new deal
                            You crack me up. Please tell me what rights you ave lost? You parrot thus stuff like it is fact, can't wait to hear what rights you're loosing.
                            ......You know you want one!!

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                            • Pyrate Jim
                              Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                              • May 2002
                              • 1052

                              #284
                              Oh,no! Another doomsday prediction to strike fear into the hearts of men.


                              Six years, folks. If we can't turn around the last 500 years of mankinds impact on the climate within that time ~ We're doomed!
                              Just more fear mongering. Why do they do this? Most of us are not stupid. One of the smartest I've seen since Jacob Bronowski would be James Burke, who produced a documentary back in 1989 that covers climate change and it's impact on human civilization as well as human impact on climate.
                              It's a good watch, I suggest it.
                              CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                              • Nobody
                                Nobody's Perfect
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 3384

                                #285
                                Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                                You crack me up. Please tell me what rights you ave lost? You parrot thus stuff like it is fact, can't wait to hear what rights you're loosing.
                                Personally, not much, but as a whole society, many.

                                Abortion rights. For a party that screams they don't want government to tell them what to do, when it comes to a woman and their right to have a medical procedure, you go ape poop over it. But the kicker is this. Not only will you force a woman to carry through a birth, they don't want, you then handcuff them by not providing any assistance afterwards. Basically, life begins at conception but after the birth, not my problem.

                                Voting. Mail in ballots, ery voting, limiting polling places

                                Healthcare. Coming from a country that has the biggest airforce in the world, who's navy is the 2nd biggest airforce in world. One would think that general Healthcare would be easy to fix. It is rather simple. Eliminate the cost for Healthcare to all citizens, who then have more money to live off of, which in turn stimulates the economy, because more people can work, instead of being sick.

                                And, most importantly, I wish to choose the people who I feel are best to run the government and not have someone tell me what I need. Basically, anti-facism.

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