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  • maniacmechanic
    PrestonCoPaintball
    • Aug 2006
    • 3453

    #661
    Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
    We are all being fed lies. From all sides we hear contradicting "truths".
    It's when you swallow one or another you start calling anything contrary a lie. Or Fascist, or Racist or whatever evil, wicked, mean and nasty name you come up with.
    Were I a practicing Solipsist, I would say that Truth is only what you yourself believe. Belief is the product of imagination.
    What I believe is that societal manipulation is responsible for the current polarization. It's an intentional indoctrination to divide and conquer.
    YOU are 100% Correct ,,,, IMO

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    • Tunaman
      Specialized AGD Tech

      • Dec 2000
      • 8643

      #662
      I wonder if CNN and MSDNC are covering the Russian warships and submarine docking in Cuba? Putin says if America can give Ukraine weapons to hit inside of Russia, then why can't Russia give Cuba or Venezuela the same weapons to strike within the US? Is he wrong? We should be worried with these morons running the woke military. Another Biden blunder.
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      • Nobody
        Nobody's Perfect
        • Oct 2001
        • 3384

        #663
        Originally posted by Tunaman
        I wonder if CNN and MSDNC are covering the Russian warships and submarine docking in Cuba? Putin says if America can give Ukraine weapons to hit inside of Russia, then why can't Russia give Cuba or Venezuela the same weapons to strike within the US? Is he wrong? We should be worried with these morons running the woke military. Another Biden blunder.
        Maybe, just maybe we, the US of A are not in a state of war with Russia?

        While you can argue that the Monroe Doctrine limits any outside nation from doing what you describe, and argue because the Monroe Doctrine is wholly illegal as to what and how sovereign countries conduct their own business.

        So, are you saying that you wish to see a war happen between the 2 countries? Is your support of Russia through foxnews that fanatical that you are wanting to see American soldiers die? The last thing that Russia wants is to get into a shooting war with the USA.

        Everything that you are saying makes absolutely no sense. Regardless of party politics, this does no good for the country that you are living in. What the frig man...?

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        • Nobody
          Nobody's Perfect
          • Oct 2001
          • 3384

          #664
          Ok, I have to break this down, as it is such an asinine statement that, I have heard better things, after I scraped them off of my show.

          Originally posted by Tunaman
          I wonder if CNN and MSDNC are covering the Russian warships and submarine docking in Cuba?
          Yes, they make mention of it, and it is what it is. One would think that they should be more involved in the Black Sea, prosecuting the war with Ukraine. Except for the fact that Russia has lost multiple ships in the Black Sea and have retreated from forward bases, to the periphery of the Black Sea.

          Originally posted by Tunaman
          IPutin says if America can give Ukraine weapons to hit inside of Russia, then why can't Russia give Cuba or Venezuela the same weapons to strike within the US? Is he wrong?
          The US is providing aid, weapons included but there are limits on what and where the Ukrainians can use and strike with American made equipment. Now this has. After near 3 years of war, has been lifted for the most part. That was done by the US to NOT escalate the conflict further, but with Russia continuing and escalated their own tactics, continuing to target civilian and infrastructure to punish the Ukrainian people, those limitations have been lifted. No where has US soldiers and/or equipment(not equipment sold or given as aid), been actively involved in the conflict. So, when you see M1 Abrams, M2 Bradleys, and hopefully soon, F16 Falcons, they are all being manned by soldiers of the Ukrainian armed forces.

          Now, if Russia, in a pitiful point of power projection, wishes to sell arms and equipment to those countries, that is perfectly fine. But if Russia wishes to move, say nuclear weapons to those countries, while being manned and maintained by the Russian armed forces, then that can be looked upon as clear and present provocation, i.e. intentionally acting on a war footing.

          So, one can not simply sell a nuclear weapon to a non-nuclear country. While treaties and alliances done by countries of nuclear weapons, can and have been allowed to do that. Look at both sides of the cold war, of both the Nato and Warsaw Pact countries placing tactical and strategic weapons in foreign countries. So any move of Russia to place nuclear weapons in foreign countries is a serious threat. A threat to the very same country you, Tuna live in.

          Though power projections by countries can and do have great political moves on the global scale, this is not a good time for Russia to do so, IMO. To saber rattle, while your army is in year 3 of a 3 day war, is well, stupid. Whether or not these ships were en route before or after the lifting of weapon usage limitation from the US and other countries(the UK, France, Germany and other aid suppliers), I don't know. But what I do know is that, either provoking the US directly or indirectly is not in the best interests of Russia.

          By current reports from the war, it has pretty much been a stalemate, with little gains on either side. Much of that, on the Ukrainian side, was due to the GOPs delays on getting the aid packages to Ukraine in time. So it is a quagmire. But to then thrown in a country that has the world's biggest airforce, and the world's 2nd largest airforce, the US Navy, in a conflict were air power is such a huge factor, within and outside the conflict zone is not good. Which, if you consider that there would be no problem with the US activating Artcile 5 of the NATO treaty, and Russia is now in a world of hurt.


          Originally posted by Tunaman
          IWe should be worried with these morons running the woke military. Another Biden blunder.
          How is caring for the troops woke? How is the military woke? Can you define that?

          No, you better not. You have no frigging clue on most of the stuff you blather about, so why would you even answer this any better?

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          • Tunaman
            Specialized AGD Tech

            • Dec 2000
            • 8643

            #665
            Spoken like a true, dumb liberal.
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            • CitsejaMkraDehT
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 135

              #666
              Originally posted by Tunaman
              I wonder if CNN and MSDNC are covering the Russian warships and submarine docking in Cuba? Putin says if America can give Ukraine weapons to hit inside of Russia, then why can't Russia give Cuba or Venezuela the same weapons to strike within the US? Is he wrong? We should be worried with these morons running the woke military. Another Biden blunder.




              It's not that uncommon for Russian submarines to pop out of the water as show of force.

              It's been a long standing US position to not bend to the wants/demands of Russia/USSR. Example: Cold War
              Beloved Republican president Ronald Reagan went on and on about being against communism.

              You can probably find fault with a lot of Biden's policies but the Ukraine war? Seems like a very odd point to bash him.

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              • Tunaman
                Specialized AGD Tech

                • Dec 2000
                • 8643

                #667
                Originally posted by CitsejaMkraDehT




                It's not that uncommon for Russian submarines to pop out of the water as show of force.

                It's been a long standing US position to not bend to the wants/demands of Russia/USSR. Example: Cold War
                Beloved Republican president Ronald Reagan went on and on about being against communism.

                You can probably find fault with a lot of Biden's policies but the Ukraine war? Seems like a very odd point to bash him.
                I guess you didnt read the part about our military supplying weapons to Ukraine that can hit INSIDE of Russian territory. Putin has stated already that we should go ahead and try it. Only a fool would think nothing of this. The administration has stated already that they think nothing of this. Good luck with that. We are going to get hit again...either from the Isis terorrists that Biden has already let in or by some other foreign country that Russia is supplying weapons to. Keep supporting morons and you keep getting moronic outcomes.
                Last edited by Tunaman; 06-13-2024, 01:11 PM.
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                • CitsejaMkraDehT
                  Registered User
                  • May 2007
                  • 135

                  #668
                  Originally posted by Tunaman
                  I guess you didnt read the part about our military supplying weapons to Ukraine that can hit INSIDE of Russian territory. Putin has stated already that we should go ahead and try it. Only a fool would think nothing of this. The administration has stated already that they think nothing of this. Good luck with that. We are going to get hit again...either from the Isis terorrists that Biden has already let in or by some other foreign country that Russia is supplying weapons to. Keep supporting morons and you keep getting moronic outcomes.
                  You do realize the UK and France have been supplying Ukraine with weapons that can also hit INSIDE of Russian territory. The US supplied them with weapons as well which can't hit Moscow or St Petersburg and they put a caveat on how the weapons are going to be used. I've worked long enough in the DoD to know that the US is going to be closely monitoring that and making sure Ukraine uses the weapons as the US sees fit. Putin could work with Cuba or Venezuela to put weapons there if he wanted to anyways, but he won't. They can't even manage the Ukraine conflict effectively much less deal with the spread of mass corruption that has left large amount of weapon caches not functional. Ever watch a documentary on their submarines? Straight trash. Their officers are treated like poor common folk, it's surprising the damn things don't sink more often.

                  Putin doesn't give a crap about the people of Russia so anything that comes out of his mouth in this regard is a bunch of nonsense. Russia is a pretty big paper tiger but I wouldn't go incessantly poking it.


                  I'm going to ignore the ISIS terrorists / etc. since it has no bearing on your original comment. Your bias of politics is so great that you're not even an ounce objective about the situation. It took all of less 30 seconds to google "CNN russian submarine" and dismiss your claim about that.
                  Last edited by CitsejaMkraDehT; 06-13-2024, 08:41 PM.

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                  • Nobody
                    Nobody's Perfect
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 3384

                    #669
                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    I guess you didnt read the part about our military supplying weapons to Ukraine that can hit INSIDE of Russian territory.
                    Well, when you start a war, stuff is going to blow up. As was said by myself and thedarkmagestic(sorry, I did not invert you name), there were limitations put on Ukraine on what and where it can hit in the war. Those restrictions have been lifted and Ukraine has more agency to begin to hit Russian targets, i.e. supply, staging, and personal bases, inside Russian territory.

                    Bare in mind, Russia has continued to destroy infrastructure, target civilians, with little to no military value, during these 3 years of the war. So with that, putin has continued to demand more and more of the world to stay out of the conflict. Why? Because he has only threats to give, as his military has been laid waste, for the most part. More so, anytime that the US and the allies have increased aid and equipment to Ukraine in defiance of those threats, Russia has done nothing. Guess the world is not afraid of the anti-woke Russian military.

                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    Putin has stated already that we should go ahead and try it.
                    And again, empty threats. He has nothing to play except those threats. Now, if you were in a 4 story building with Putin and the GRU, I would be afraid of being defenestrated.

                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    Only a fool would think nothing of this.
                    You are a fool because you cannot separate politics from the actions of our country as a whole. If it is done by a democrat, it has to be bad, and if it is done by a republican, then it has to be good. Even though those actuons can be directly against you and you well being.

                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    The administration has stated already that they think nothing of this. Good luck with that.
                    So, the apparently weak willed and callow democrats are standing up against a tyrant, in the name of freedom and democracy? Let me check the constitution...

                    Yup, so far so good. Guess you are backing the wrong horse, comrade...

                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    We are going to get hit again...either from the Isis terorrists that Biden has already let in or by some other foreign country that Russia is supplying weapons to.
                    Well, if the GOP would have actually signed the boarder bill that would have tightened up the board, just like the GOP wanted, then what would you have complain about? So maybe point your finger at the people who are actually allowing the boarder to be so open. By my count, the Dems presented a boarder bill that met every asking point of the GOP.

                    But when you actually have competent people at those agencies, instead of sycophants that have to pledge allegiance to a man, not a country; I would put my money on this administration. Wasn't the last time we had a terroristic act happen under a Republican admin?

                    Originally posted by Tunaman
                    Keep supporting morons and you keep getting moronic outcomes.
                    So is that why you support trump. Good thing I try to do the opposite.

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                    • Tunaman
                      Specialized AGD Tech

                      • Dec 2000
                      • 8643

                      #670
                      Do you mean the border bill that included amnesty for 7 million illegal aliens? Every proposed bill that the democrats have introduced has included amnesty. They are fooling no one.
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                      • 845
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 1809

                        #671

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                        • Tunaman
                          Specialized AGD Tech

                          • Dec 2000
                          • 8643

                          #672
                          Originally posted by 845
                          It’s gone insane and I am pretty liberal and this ****s ridiculous. They literally advertise on indeed and brag about how few white people work at the company.
                          We will boycott that company too. The color of you skin should not make you qualify for the job. Take a look at Kamala Harris...she was only hired because she was black. Look what it got us. Friends dont let friends vote liberal.
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                          • Nobody
                            Nobody's Perfect
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 3384

                            #673
                            Originally posted by Tunaman
                            Do you mean the border bill that included amnesty for 7 million illegal aliens? Every proposed bill that the democrats have introduced has included amnesty. They are fooling no one.
                            Wow, so the dems propose a bill that the GOP asks for and you still don't like it?

                            But let's forget every policy that ever included grandfather clauses because they just don't work. Let's go through and prosecute all the assualt gun bans and the like.

                            You have no clue how anything but an emag/automag works. I feel pity for you and your racist views.

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                            • going_home
                              Hebrews 13:8

                              • Dec 2004
                              • 8343

                              #674




                              Don't worry joebama is in charge....

                              Last edited by going_home; 06-14-2024, 05:13 PM.

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                              • CitsejaMkraDehT
                                Registered User
                                • May 2007
                                • 135

                                #675
                                So somehow putting a guy who will be 78 1/2+ in office is significantly better? The guy should be soaking up his life on a yacht and doing other things but his ego is so out of whack that he wants to run the country. Donald Trump has an absolute terrible diet and exercise regimen and I wouldn't be surprised if his health deteriorates significantly in the next few years. I strongly dislike both candidates but to believe Donald Trump is anything but a trickster and a fraud is a fools errand.


                                George Carlin was certainly right about politicians. It isn't the politicians who suck, it's the American people who suck. The same people who go on and on about the 2nd amendment couldn't tell you what the 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th amendments..... are.
                                Last edited by CitsejaMkraDehT; 06-14-2024, 06:29 PM.

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