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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #1246
    Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
    You make up this garbage as you go, everything you stated above is conjecture based on your perspective. You have no idea of any of the timelines and think you are so smart that you won't even bother to look. This makes you look foolish and just propagates your continued misinformation.
    OMG, you are absolutely fuming that you can't even come up with any retort and wave it off as if it is merely opinion.

    Here is the cliff notes version:

    Epstein is bad.
    Epstein did bad things to people with his friends
    Epstein was friends with trump and Clinton
    Possibly both Clinton and Trump did bad things with Epstein
    If you accuse Clinton of something bad, then you need to also say that about trump
    There is no evidence either Clinton or trump did those bad things with Epstein
    You cannot paint one as bad, without painting the other the same way
    Trump also has done bad things to women and got convicted of that
    It is a higher probability that tru.p would have done bad things, as he has shown a higher propensity of doing the same things that Epstein had done.

    Logic is not conjecture. The timelines are well established in the public sphere.you just don't want to believe the possible truth to because you drank deep of the kool-aid.

    Like I said, I want to believe that Clinton didn't do anything, but I will not stake anything on it. He would loose my opinion and respect for him, but also, he has no idea of who I am. I do not hold political figures as paragons, as they are just humans, and humans do stupid things.

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    • Pyrate Jim
      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
      • May 2002
      • 1052

      #1247
      Originally posted by Nobody
      OMG, you are absolutely fuming that you can't even come up with any retort and wave it off as if it is merely opinion.
      Now, that's funny.
      As if anything posted on a message board is something other than opinion. Yours, mine, anybody's. All different, yet all valid to their holder.
      Please, keep it up.
      CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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      • Nobody
        Nobody's Perfect
        • Oct 2001
        • 3384

        #1248
        Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
        Now, that's funny.
        As if anything posted on a message board is something other than opinion. Yours, mine, anybody's. All different, yet all valid to their holder.
        Please, keep it up.
        If you deal in nothing but opinion, sure. You would be absolutely correct. Yet, there are these things called facts.

        Facts are those statements that can't be (but are) refuted. While you may certainly argue established fact, you generally are looked at like you are but a fool. For example:

        TK designed the first HPA systems for paintball use.
        Cockers are based on the Sheridan platform.
        TK hated the Xmag platform and didn't want to make them.

        Now, there are statements that could be argued, and from a certain prospective are true but not necessarily. For example:

        Mags don't work on co2. Unarguably, they work better on HPA, but you can make a classic valve run well on co2.
        Twist lock barrels are better than ULE bodies with cocker threads.

        Those are 2 true statements that can certainly be argued, either way.

        Then, for the topic of these posts.

        Trump is a felon. He was convicted of defrauding the state of NY.
        Trump sexually abused and defamed E. Jean Carrol and was convicted of those crimes in civil cases.

        Like it or not, those things really did happen. It was not a bad fever dream, it was lawfare, the deep state isn't against Trump nor was this an attempt by Biden to knock trump out of the election. Trump did illegal things and was held accountable for those actions. You can and may have an opinion of them, but that opinion doesn't make them go away.

        So everything I have written is easily found and confirmed. You may not like the sources, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen. The truth should never have a bias.

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        • Loguzzzzzz
          Practice Target

          • Sep 2004
          • 2121

          #1249
          Originally posted by Nobody
          OMG, you are absolutely fuming that you can't even come up with any retort and wave it off as if it is merely opinion....
          WRONG! Not fuming at all. Actually at the level of BS you are willing to spew. I have learned that even "FACTS" presented to you will ignored unless it is a source that YOU deem credible.

          Since you despise Donald J. Trump, the newly elected 47th president of the United States of America, I will assume that any savings you get from this administration (i.e. lower fuel costs, lower cost of living, or tax benefits savings) will be donated to a charity that helps those people that you claim Trump hates. Possibly the LGTBQ... community (maybe to help fund the sex change operations that SHOULD NOT be government funded). The ACLU is another one that comes to mind, but I'm sure have others to consider.

          Don't pocket those saving as that would make you complicit.

          Just a thought (high and mighty Nobody) Mr Bucket, the tattooed, pierced, fat POS!
          ......You know you want one!!

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          • Nobody
            Nobody's Perfect
            • Oct 2001
            • 3384

            #1250
            Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
            WRONG! Not fuming at all. Actually at the level of BS you are willing to spew. I have learned that even "FACTS" presented to you will ignored unless it is a source that YOU deem credible.

            Since you despise Donald J. Trump, the newly elected 47th president of the United States of America, I will assume that any savings you get from this administration (i.e. lower fuel costs, lower cost of living, or tax benefits savings) will be donated to a charity that helps those people that you claim Trump hates. Possibly the LGTBQ... community (maybe to help fund the sex change operations that SHOULD NOT be government funded). The ACLU is another one that comes to mind, but I'm sure have others to consider.

            Don't pocket those saving as that would make you complicit.

            Just a thought (high and mighty Nobody) Mr Bucket, the tattooed, pierced, fat POS!
            Well, you must insult to try and prove your superiority over anyone, which belittles any argument that you could have.

            I know that no matter what source I may have, you won't believe it. That is because you have drunk deep of the propaganda.and bath in its overflow. Of course there can be nothing wrong, as the man, the candidate could do no wrong.

            But let's face facts. Even though a slight majority of the people voted him in, that doesn't make him a saint. They voted for Nixon twice. I don't despise him, I just think he is an idiot, a moron, a con artist, a sex offender and the worst thing that this country could have done, again.

            I won't have any extra money as trump will tank the economy yet again. Everything that he has was built by other people, literally and figuratively. Like his buildings, so is the economy. So when he goes on the tariff war(AGAIN), and deports all the people that actually play a part in the economy, what then? So you better sign up for your social security before Trump takes it away. And before you ask, no a real estate guy doesn't know economics. And you would be a fool for following a reality TV personality.

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            • Loguzzzzzz
              Practice Target

              • Sep 2004
              • 2121

              #1251
              Originally posted by nobody
              well, you must insult to try and prove your superiority over anyone, which belittles any argument that you could have.

              I know that no matter what source i may have, you won't believe it. That is because you have drunk deep of the propaganda.and bath in its overflow. Of course there can be nothing wrong, as the man, the candidate could do no wrong.

              But let's face facts. Even though a slight majority of the people voted him in, that doesn't make him a saint. They voted for nixon twice. I don't despise him, i just think he is an idiot, a moron, a con artist, a sex offender and the worst thing that this country could have done, again.

              I won't have any extra money as trump will tank the economy yet again. Everything that he has was built by other people, literally and figuratively. Like his buildings, so is the economy. So when he goes on the tariff war(again), and deports all the people that actually play a part in the economy, what then? So you better sign up for your social security before trump takes it away. And before you ask, no a real estate guy doesn't know economics. And you would be a fool for following a reality tv personality.
              ......You know you want one!!

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              • Pyrate Jim
                Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                • May 2002
                • 1052

                #1252
                Originally posted by Nobody
                I know that no matter what source I may have, you won't believe it. That is because you have drunk deep of the propaganda.and bath in its overflow. Of course there can be nothing wrong, as the man, the candidate could do no wrong.
                Yeah, that's a two-way street. Only future history will show who was driving on the right side.
                But let's face facts. Even though a slight majority of the people voted him in, that doesn't make him a saint. They voted for Nixon twice. I don't despise him, I just think he is an idiot, a moron, a con artist, a sex offender and the worst thing that this country could have done, again.

                I won't have any extra money as trump will tank the economy yet again. Everything that he has was built by other people, literally and figuratively. Like his buildings, so is the economy. So when he goes on the tariff war(AGAIN), and deports all the people that actually play a part in the economy, what then? So you better sign up for your social security before Trump takes it away. And before you ask, no a real estate guy doesn't know economics. And you would be a fool for following a reality TV personality.
                Thanks for your opinion.
                CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                • Nobody
                  Nobody's Perfect
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3384

                  #1253
                  Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                  Thanks for your opinion.
                  And the same goes to you too

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                  • maniacmechanic
                    PrestonCoPaintball
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3453

                    #1254
                    Originally posted by loguzzzzzz
                    wrong! Not fuming at all. Actually At the level of bs you are willing to spew. I have learned that even "facts" presented to you will ignored unless it is a source that you deem credible.

                    Since you despise donald j. Trump, the newly elected 47th president of the united states of america, i will assume that any savings you get from this administration (i.e. Lower fuel costs, lower cost of living, or tax benefits savings) will be donated to a charity that helps those people that you claim trump hates. Possibly the lgtbq... Community (maybe to help fund the sex change operations that should not be government funded). The aclu is another one that comes to mind, but i'm sure have others to consider.

                    Don't pocket those saving as that would make you complicit.

                    Just a thought (high and mighty nobody) mr bucket, the tattooed, pierced, fat pos!
                    rotflmfao

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                    • Pyrate Jim
                      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                      • May 2002
                      • 1052

                      #1255
                      Originally posted by Nobody
                      And the same goes to you too
                      I can appreciate that you acknowledge what I've already posted. That each has an opinion valid unto themselves.
                      While I respect your opinion and the "fact" that you are entitled to it, the way you present it is abhorrent, confrontational and unworthy of respect.
                      (in my opinion)
                      CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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                      • Nobody
                        Nobody's Perfect
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3384

                        #1256
                        Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                        I can appreciate that you acknowledge what I've already posted. That each has an opinion valid unto themselves.
                        While I respect your opinion and the "fact" that you are entitled to it, the way you present it is abhorrent, confrontational and unworthy of respect.
                        (in my opinion)
                        Well then, maybe you are but one opinion and it is the others here that don't share you presentation of opinions. I try not to berate, demean or I sult anyone, but there are times that I do stoop that low. Others here that are on your side, don't seem to have that problem. So what am I to do?

                        I present, not just my opinion, but the general consensus on topic. Though it may seem like it is an opinion from an opinionated man, but what do you call it when I retell an opinion on a subject matter expert? I don't site my sources, because you(everyone) won't click on them, and you will deny that any source that I might provide as highly biased and fake news(do we still use that term anymore?). And since you won't believe anything that you haven't been told to direct by your choice in your news media, how can you ever, possibly believe that someone might actually know more than you?

                        I like to think I am well read and know a great deal about a lot of subjects, but I don't know everything. So when someone comes off either biased against the truth or ignorant about something, what should you do? You should tell them they are wrong, provide examples of what they got wrong, provide the truth and what for an interactive discussion, pitting what you know against what is said, so everyone can learn. Yet, that doesn't happen here. I think everything that has been talked about here, doesn't belong, but it is being allowed. So be it. And when anyone challenges what you perceived as the truth, no talk happens, it is the insult and the "listen to your betters". And that doesn't fly well with me and a lot of the people that left.

                        So, if and when you want a more better atmosphere and good healthy discussions on whatever topic is of the hour/day, I am all for it. But that doesn't mean I wish to be talked down to by people that only seem to regurgitate what is running on foxnews, or whatever is feeding your biased and uninformed news "sound bite".

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                        • going_home
                          Hebrews 13:8

                          • Dec 2004
                          • 8343

                          #1257
                          I'll never forget when I turned 18 , yeah almost 50 years ago, I told my grandpa I registered as a Republican, the old farmer was in his 70s then, he almost flipped out.

                          I had no idea what the difference was at the time.

                          Not that I'm proud of the Republicans, they are just as crooked as the Democrats.

                          But I can't help but wonder what he'd think about his beloved Democrat party now, supporting the qu**rs and reprobates like they do.

                          Not that the Republicans aren't also I guess, they just aren't as annoyingly vocal and in your face about it, the left must silence anything other than they way they think.

                          On another note how about Elon buying MSLSD and having Alex Jones run it ?

                          That would be just hilarious
                          Last edited by going_home; 12-02-2024, 06:12 PM.

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                          • Nobody
                            Nobody's Perfect
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 3384

                            #1258
                            Originally posted by going_home
                            I'll never forget when I turned 18 , yeah almost 50 years ago, I told my grandpa I registered as a Republican, the old farmer was in his 70s then, he almost flipped out.

                            I had no idea what the difference was at the time.

                            Not that I'm proud of the Republicans, they are just as crooked as the Democrats.

                            But I can't help but wonder what he'd think about his beloved Democrat party now, supporting the qu**rs and reprobates like they do.

                            Not that the Republicans aren't also I guess, they just aren't as annoyingly vocal and in your face about it, the left must silence anything other than they way they think.

                            On another note how about Elon buying MSLSD and having Alex Jones run it ?

                            That would be just hilarious
                            Yes, and supporting child molesters and rapists is so much better. Great job

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                            • maniacmechanic
                              PrestonCoPaintball
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 3453

                              #1259
                              Originally posted by Nobody
                              Yes, and supporting child molesters and rapists is so much better. Great job
                              He wasn't speakin to you

                              It was nice and quiet here ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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                              • Nobody
                                Nobody's Perfect
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 3384

                                #1260
                                Originally posted by maniacmechanic
                                He wasn't speakin to you

                                It was nice and quiet here ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
                                If going_home wants to talk privately, then he knows what a PM is.

                                But I thought that the republican party was all about the inclusion ,the workers, the everyday people? Guess they forgot to take down the white, male, Christian and heterosexual only sign down.

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