A tough puzzle for everyone to discuss

[Python14]

Okay, I came up with this a year or two ago as something to confused my physical science teacher. It worked to say the least, but it also gave me a pounding headache as I pondered
it. So here it is...


In a hundred years time travel has been mastered and do-it-youself Time travel kits have littered the earth. Well, on afternoon, Jim builds his Time machine and to test it, he is gonna send a rubber ball back in time. Now, Jim isnt what you call intelligent, even in the most inclusive of ideas. He decides well, I'm gonna send the ball three minutes back in time and he'll do it at noon. Well, at 11:57am, a ball appears on his desk. Well, now he has two rubber balls in his possestion. According to the laws of matter, it cannot be destroyed or created, correct? Well, where did the ball come from? Think about it. Couldn't this suggest a multiple Universe theory?

[Tunaman]

Must be some good stuff you are smoking. Got more?

[Python14]

hahaha,naw, I'm not a smoker of anything, I'm just wierd.

[oldsoldier]

Cant coexist. same matter, same ball. One of them cant exist. Uh, just a guess, I guess.

[hubadlatimmy]

past, present, and the future. Thats how I would explain it, it sounds simple enough but if there is a future for everything you do there has to be a past and he sent the ball back to in time 3 mins in the future then it appeared in the present. I hope that makes sence, it does in my head but not everything I write makes sence to the other people that read it.

[-J�ker-]

well it wasnt created because they are dif in some way... one is 3 min. older

[J]

If it was a multiple universe, wouldn't some other Jim be missing 1 to 2 balls? That wouldn't make any sense for him...


And time only goes foward so it couldn't work because 12:00 wasn't there yet, or something like that...

[marley618]

Hey, Jim is supposed to have 2 balls, leave him alone.

[J]

wait wait wait, Jimmy had to go back in time to get his balls back? Ok, that makes sense now...

[Gotenks]

uh...

I'm pretty sure it's been proven that you can't travel to the past, but it is possible to travel to the future.

Theres the solution.

[TransMan]

ok lets see here ok say you could send stuff back in time no matter would have been created at 11:57 because its the same matter and then at 12:00 Jimmy would only have one ball again

[dansim]

but why would he have one ball again at 12? if he has in possesion 2 at 1157 perhaps this throws off his plans for the time machine in the afternoon? or will he put two balls in teh machine and then at 1157 hell have 3 balls? continuing on a vicious cycle, simply put if it wasnt there before and its there now then it must be MAGIC HES A WITCH BURN HIM!!!!

[FutureMagOwner]

it would only be a vicous cycle if bill did it 936987589 times than the would would explode because of balls!

now i have thought of travel in the past and i always came to the conclusion as soon as something goes back the universe would colapse

and isnt proven you cant travel in the past

worm holes.

if you are able to create a wormhole thats stable the other end of it can be almost anywhere at any time.
basically to travel in the past you enter a wormhole thats know the goto the past(maybe from sensors or very VERY brave or pychopathic people) and it craps you out 49267847 years earlier or however far it is. lets just say by the time we could do that humankind would no longer exist as we know it, or we all died from idiocy(most likely), or the earth would have colapsed into the sun already. sure it could be possible tommorow heck godzilla could fart on someones head and i would say i told you that was gunna happen because pretty much ANYTHING can happen.

this sounds too star treky to me maybe your shatner spys

[land hurricane]

Tell Jim to put on some glasses

[ThePatriot]

Actually, perhaps its not impossible. There is matter all around us we cannot see, light for instance(maybe) Since none of us know thats much about time travel, maybe the ball appears from some other matter in the air?

Also...it would balance out, in 3 more minutes he will only have 1 ball again. The main question here is, what happens if Jimmy at 11:58 decides hes not going to send his ball back in time??? This is the same theory in the movie "The Time Machine" The 2nd ball was a process of him sending the ball back in time, so no matter what he does, it will happen. He locked the events into the timeline. In the movie the same thing happens, He makes the time machine as a result of his girlfriend's death. Well, because of this he cannot save her using the time machine. Because if he did save her, then the time machine would have NEVER existed later on in the time line, so he could never have saved her.