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  • StuDawggie
    Cigar Smokin' Paintballer
    • Feb 2002
    • 434

    #1

    Very Distirbuing News that ticks me off

    So lately in the news here in the Detroit area there has been this story about this woman who killed her 2 kids. To summarize the whole thing it goes like this.

    This woman (I'll leaver her name out of this) 25 y/o takes her 2 kids with her ages 4 and 10 months with her while she goes to the salon to get her hair done. 3 1/2 hours later (at aprox 8:00 pm) she comes out of the salon to her car and finds her kids dead from being left in the car with the windows rolled up in 90+ degree heat. So realizing that they're dead, she drives around for 3 hours before going to a hospital to tell them that something is wrong. Then when she gets to the hospital at 11:00 pm she tells the people there that she was raped and forced to leave the kids while she was dragged away. Well, come to find out she wasn't (no seminal fluid was found, and she admitted that she had lied)the police arrest her for incident. BTW after examining the car the police found face prints of the children on the windows of the car near the top where they tried to get air. That brings us to now. It was annouced that the most she can be charged with is invoulary manslaughter, since she admitted the she "didn't know that leaving them in a car that long would kill them". So the worst penalty she would receive would be 15 years, and the least she could receive if convicted is probation.
    Let me also add that this single woman is currently 4 months pregnant with her 3rd child and the state is going to allow her to have the child and once it is born it will be placed with a family member of hers. Also she has a criminal history a mile long, with violations ranging from disorderly conduct to CHILD NEGLECT!!!!!

    C'mon people, who is that stupid to not know that leaving a child in a parked car when it's over 90 outside is dangerous? She's 25 y/o and admits that she didn't know that to a judge. That's a crock of crap.

    It's a shame that we hear about these stories every summer, and no one does anything until it's too late. The only people I feel bad for are the children that die, not the parent who neglected their child, or even that person's family. I feel only for the innocent victims in this case. The only thing about this story that makes me happy is the fact that she was unable to attend her own children's funeral and will have to live the rest of her life knowing that she killed her kids and wasn't allowed to attend the funeral and has that burden on her the rest of her life.

    Sorry if this seems like a rant, but stupid people just tick me off, and in this case a child killer is going to get a light sentence and be back in society because she played stupid to the judge. I wonder when this is done how many more childern she'll have, and kill, because she wanted to put priority on her hair and not her children.
  • TigerMan
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    • Jan 2002
    • 1100

    #2
    These are the kind of people who you wish you could use Arabic law on them for the punishment to fit the crime. The woman obviously doesn't have her priorities straight nor her mindset. If the woman knows how to use an oven and what it does to things put inside it (assuming she does since she is a mother, not much of one though), she should easily have known what would have happened to her kids when left in the conditions they were left in (not best example to use for the oven, but it gets the point across). She also must have been living under a rock or something for her entire life to have not heard a story about children being left in the car. The woman is obviously not fit to care for another person as she put two childrens lives on the side for her hair. Put her in a car with the same conditions and see how she likes it.
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    • Restola
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      • May 2001
      • 2230

      #3
      Some people just belong at the vet. ::snip snip::

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      • Cliffio
        No Sig's or Av's is Gay
        • Nov 2001
        • 4592

        #4
        not watch the news much?
        this story broke on the first on july
        its now the 11th

        little late on this one

        but yeah its sad, and i was angry about it last week, but i just brushed it off as being a stupid stupid person, or perhaps something she did on perpose

        anyways
        its horrible

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        • oldsoldier
          just choke yourself out!!!
          • Feb 2002
          • 2459

          #5
          the worst part is, it will happen again.
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          • Jonno06
            AKA Jon-no wang
            • Jan 2002
            • 4392

            #6
            how old were the kids again?

            4monthes,and 10monthes,or 4yrs,and 10monthes......???

            if i was 10,i know i would have kicked the windows out,or atleast honked the horn to get her attencion.....


            the kids dont know how to unlock the doors,let alone open them??

            i know they might be too young,then how did they try and get air??

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            • obsolete898
              2W251
              • Mar 2002
              • 1441

              #7
              That's when I wish God got a muligan.

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              • MagmanLee
                Pball Fanatic
                • Feb 2002
                • 144

                #8
                wow...how stupid and simple minded can u be? Well i hope her hair was worth it cause she just traded 2 of her kids for it.
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                • StuDawggie
                  Cigar Smokin' Paintballer
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 434

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cliffio
                  not watch the news much?
                  this story broke on the first on july
                  its now the 11th
                  actually I watch it daily. The part that just broke that got me all PO'd was that fact that she said that she didn't know that leaving the kids in the car for over 3 hours in the heat would kill them.

                  Jonno: the kids were 4 yrs and 10 months. Not 10 years, and 4 months, sorry about the confusion.

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                  • mykroft
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 2010

                    #10
                    You think that's bad. A young Japanese woman was recently convicted of double 1st degree murder in Edmonton, for leaving her two kids (one 2 year old, 1 15 months old) alone in her apartment for two weeks, while she partied with her boyfriend.
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                    • Patron God of Pirates
                      ~pgop1.0
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 1196

                      #11
                      Stupid is not a crime.

                      It was an awfull mistake, but based on this instance allone she does not need to be rehabilitated. She doesn't need to go to prison, she needs to go to school. (Please not that while these statments seem a bit liberal, I'm not, and I don't think I should have to pay for he education or imprisonment)

                      As to the driving around and lying, yeah, another stupid move, but i think we need to cut some slack to the mental state of a woman who just killed her kids by accident and was probably stupid enough think she'd get the death penalty for it.

                      Try to look past your outrage and relize that this woman has allready been punished more than she deserves. Putting her in prison will be a waste of time, money, and only produce a less fnctional citizen than we had to begin with.

                      Side note: Three hours?!? How much hair does she have!?!?

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                      • Jonno06
                        AKA Jon-no wang
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 4392

                        #12
                        i take it the 4yr old cant unlock the door??

                        or honk the horn?

                        i agree with patron of pirates........

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                        • synreal
                          code monkey
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 1051

                          #13
                          stupid may not be a crime, but it is also not a defense.

                          anyone who has driven for more than a few months knows that your car gets good and toasty after being closed up in the sun for a few minutes

                          i am not outraged at the situation, however, i am upset that she is claiming to be too stupid to have known that baking your children in a car for 3 hours is what is commonly refered to as a "bad" thing. hell, leaving your 10 month old alone, unsupervised for 3 hours also fits under the same heading. i live in detroit, where this happened, and i can also tell you that every day for YEARS i have seen billboards and commercials reminding you to NOT leave kids or pets in cars even for brief periods of time, because they will die.

                          it bothers me that people who leave their pets in the car to bake lose their pets (and often get their windows smashed in by cops/by-standers to let the critters out) but this creaton gets to keep on pumping out kids, lovely.

                          if you are too stupid to know that ditching your kids while you go get braids put in for hours is completely inappropriate, then by the same logic, you are a danger to your unborn child, and should be seperated as soon as medically safe for the child.

                          if i go push my brother off a building, is my sadness over the loss of a family memeber punishment enough for my <b>crime</b>? i highly doubt so. she should (and most likely will) spend some quality time out by jackson correction facility where they have a notorious record for not being polite to inmates who commit crimes against children.


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                          • wyn1370
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                            • Feb 2001
                            • 3821

                            #14
                            Makes you wonder what kind of place she got her hair done at. Most salons have windows out front. How did no one else notice this happening? Let alone the fact that she's from Detroit. Who would leave their kids unattended in Detroit?
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                            • Patron God of Pirates
                              ~pgop1.0
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 1196

                              #15
                              Originally posted by synreal
                              if i go push my brother off a building, is my sadness over the loss of a family memeber punishment enough for my <b>crime</b>? i highly doubt so. she should (and most likely will) spend some quality time out by jackson correction facility where they have a notorious record for not being polite to inmates who commit crimes against children.
                              That depends, did you push him off on purpose?

                              I realize there is a huge gray area here, and I agree, the woman should be declared unfit to raise children. My point is that her spending 15 years in prison will do no good.

                              If it is proven that she intended to kill her children, then by all means, may she be disemboweled in a public square. Deliberate crimes against children, who are helpless and depend on us, are the most evil crimes of all.

                              Evil vs. Stupid, makes the loss of two children no less tragic, but it does make it less criminal.

                              The other side of the coin is this; If she is not sent to jail for it, will other mothers who wish to kill there children begin having similar accidents? So do we imprison an innocent (although monumentally stupid) woman as an example to others?

                              Lots and lots of gray.

                              Side Note: A woman that works for my father doesn't know who the president is and thinks the Russians knocked down the World Trade Center. She has three kids. The idiots are out breeding us.

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