Did u notice that it seems that a parent's...

[gibby]

Originally posted by shartley
Oh.. who knows more about being a kid? How about someone who has BEEN there? Kids on the other hand have NOT been parents. The first mistake a kid can make is to think that because an adult IS an adult, they know NOHTING about being a kid. LOL Been there, done that. Wrong guy to argue that issue with.. sorry.

Hey Shartley...I agree with a lot of what you had to say and the light hearted attitude you brought to this discussion. However, as adults, we can't always assume that things back in our days is the same way they are today. You have to admit, life as a young adult nowadays is much more different than what we went through. In many ways, it's much more complicated.

To dismiss that fact might lead you to make ill decisions with your children. Just because you've been through it doesn't always mean what's right for you then is right for your children now. Sure, we all go through peer pressure, wanting to be accepted, feeling independant, and learning through our mistakes. My philosophy is, sometimes you have to let them experience things for themselves and let them make up their own decisions. You can try all you want to tell them what's best for them, but unless they experience it for themselves and learn from their own experience, they won't see eye to eye completely.

But the most important thing in this situation is understanding from both the child's and the parent's perspective. Communication is key and openmindedness from both parties.

Anyway, just my opinion on all of this. But my advice to Infinity is...be yourself and don't do things just to fit in or to try to stuff that will make you "stand out." Like Shartley said, there are many ways you can achieve self satisfaction instead of trying to be someone that you're not. HOWEVER! If you truly feel that coloring your hair, getting a tat, or pierce every piece of your body is who you are, then GO FOR IT!!

Do it for you, not for anyone else.

[FutureMagOwner]

eh being a highschooler myself i feel a need to chime in

thank you for your time
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ok now that i got you thinking i wasnt going to put anything(sorry for the pointlessness of it however)

i as a highschooler always do what i want to do. if someone says listening to BAND A is retarded id say "isnt that just dandy" or if they say "Metallica is old and sucks" id say "go suck a lemon" basically i am who i am and that aint bad because id rather be myself and not fear every little thing i do then to be a poser watching what everyone else does and go with the(mostly stupid) flow. and if i were like the majority of the kids in my school then id do drugs and get drunk at dances(or atleast goto dances) but i dont because i believe that laws are in place for a reason and should be followed(a large majority of laws). anyway this post seems to be going nowhere so ill add more in an *EDIT* later

[tsc]

Eh.

Deal :)

I did the died/spiked hair for a while. Wow, you look *exactly* like your buddies. Great individuality there. Peircings? Everyone and their grandma has 3 or 4.


Army let me do it because HE used to do it. Came to the same conclusion as me, too: It's stupid. If you want to wear a uniform..join the service. Don't pass it off as nonconformity.


-=|MystryMoisture|=-
Are you saying *just* because music is popular you wont listen to it? This reeks of silliness..

[Bulldog]

-=|MystryMoisture|=- just a suggestion, if you want people to believe your mature, starting threads like this, probably isn't the way to do it.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54485

But it generated a lot of hilarirous responses, so thanx for the comic relief.

[Restola]

Originally posted by -=|MystryMoisture|=-
I dont wanna brag (I guess you would call it that) but I am probly more grown up than anyone at our school.

Oh ok. I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were the most mature kid in your local high school... My deepest apologies. Clearly you know more about the real world than any of us. I guess I should step out of this one since I am clearly too ignorant.

[Ov3rmind]

This thread is quite interesting now that I have read it over and thought about it some. It's very informative to hear views from both ends of the argument, and it kinda' puts things into perspective for both ends.

I mainly just abide by my parents best wishes, after all, they are giving me a place to live, providing food, and supporting me in times of need. I'm not going to cry and moan about what they can't and can let me do, since they already give me so much. I will admit, it does frustrate me when they wont let me do something, but I guess you do have an obligation to respect their best wishes.

Anyone who says that they are right because "they have been in the same position as you, and have learned since," is simply put, not right. Times have changed, and even then, individual people can be very different (and regardless of the time frame, they can be drawn into very different situations). This does apply to you adults who seem to think you've lived your childrens lives before. I can guarantee you they are living a very different child hood than you did. What's even worse though, is when kids/teenagers try to act all knowing even when they know they have less experience than adults (keep in mind though, just because adults have more experience in no way makes them right). I guess it's just natural for people to go through kind of an "all knowing, I'm right" stage during their teen years. A lot of it does have to do with maturity though, and all that it takes is time before they start to act a little less "all knowing."

Most parent/children arguments result from a lack of understanding on both sides (well, atleast from what I can gather). Neither side seems to actually understand why the other side wants to do a certain thing. Both sides also tend to think they are always 100% right during these arguments too, when in fact both of them are right to some degree.

Parents need to really give more thought to what some of their children want, and that these things, although may seem trivial to parents, may be very important to their children. Kids/teenagers, you just need to realize that your parents are infact trying to do what they think is best for you. I doubt there are a great majority of parents out there who like to purposfully annoy/harm their children (there are mentally/physically abusive parents though. But this doesn't apply to most of you teenagers posting on these boards anyway).

[InfinatyBPS]

Lol, I just relized how stupid my post sounded, I'm sorry I was in a bad mood when I wrote this cause my dad was giving me a hard time about my hair. So I said that I'll get a mowhawk then and he said then he'll go get the razor... So that kinda pissed me off and made me think about all the stuff I'm forbiden to do or even talk about and if I do I either get threatened with my life, health, or a place to sleep. And I think thats pretty messed up, threatening me with stuff like that because I do something with my hair. I would prolly never get a tattoo, but peircings, prolly my eyebrow and mabe ear or something, mabe lip and stuff if I went crazy, but hair dying, that just looks like fun, I wouldn't do any of this stuff to be popular or realy to hang out with a new crowd(I already hang out with the very small group of rockers sometimes), I would just do it to have fun, just to, I guess you would say "express myself" but my dad thinks that anything that he didn't do when he was little or think about doing is completely wrong and is a sin and will send me to hell, or mabe he just thinks it's stupid. But ya, as soon as I'm out of the house, I'm runnin to sally's beauty supply to grab some hair bleach and blue and green dye :) And running to my local peircing shop to get my eyebrow peirced, but hopefully I will be away for college(If I can even afford to go) because if he catches me he will most likely "dissown" me. And as for being popular, I don't realy care about that, just as long as I have friends that I can takl to have have a good time with, then it's all good. Although I wish I could hang out with a group that there are more girls in. But like I said before most of the people in my school are "gangsta thugs" and thats just not me, but most of the girls in my school want a guy who has a nice riced out car, and wears his pants around his knees and talks like they are a "thug". They don't want a fat rocker guy I guess, even though I have a great personality and sense of humor The only girls that I might have a chance with personality wise, are the rocker girls and there are only about 10 in the whole school and they are either taken or WAY outa my legue. Anyways, ya I think I covered everything I had to say. And I won't be switching over to the "thug life" anytime soon. And its also realy annoying when I wear a chain around my neck that looks silver, and people are like oh, "bling bling" or "yo, you blingin" or "that pos aint even real, why u wearing it?", I usualy feel totaly misunderstood when they say that, I wear it because I like chains and spikes not because I want to be like Jay-Z, so annoying.

[Ov3rmind]

I'd kill myself if I went to your school.

[InfinatyBPS]

Lol, please explain :)

[Allen]

Wait- are the people in your school almost all white, from upper middle class families? If so, it sounds like where I went to high school, only at my high school there were a bunch of normal people- I mean we had an anime club, so not everyone thought they were from Detroit.

[InfinatyBPS]

ummm, no most of my school is mexican or black or asian, and most aren't from upper/middle class families... there are very few if any from upper or middle class families...

[WhyIsItUpsideDown?]

There is no normal anymore, there never was, and there never will be. Everything must be broken into classes. THANK POP CULTURE! Its GREEEEAAAAATTTTT!!!

[WhyIsItUpsideDown?]

Oh and Infinity there is a way out of it....move.

[Restola]

Or simply suck it up, realize the "real world" doesn't care what pair of shoes are popular this week, and study so you can get some scholarships so you can get a job where no one cares what shoes are popular this week and leave high school and the silly cliques behind you.

Just a thought.

[joeyjoe367]

Originally posted by beam
One thing I noticed when I was in school....There is conformity in non-conformity.

Rgr that. Have you ever talked to some of these "Goth" style people? One thing they ALL say (In my experience) is that they dress the way they do because they want to be "Origeonal" and "Express themselves"

LOL!

Orieonal? C'mon. Every school has a population of these people. Self-Expression? That's up to you, but If you simply tell me that you're "Expressing Youself" by being just like all these other guys, I'm highly going to doubt it.

I don't know about you, but I feel that by NOT MINDING CONFORMITY, I've become one of the more non-conformist people. I do what I want, wear what I want, etc.. etc.. If it happens to be what's popular at the time, I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing, or tear off the shirt/pants/shoes that happened to be/became popular.


LOL, if you want a mo-hawk because you TRULY feel that's the way that you're going to express yourself, by all means Do it. Explain to your parents how that is a form of self-expression, and that it's not social pressures that are forcing you to want to do it.

THINK FOR YOURSELF DARN* IT! QUESTION EVERYTHING, EVEN YOUR OWN OPPINIONS!

ask yourself, "Why Do i want pearcings? Or Some kind of haircut? Is it because I really want it? or because I'm trying to fit in with people at school?



...Oh, and as far as what your parents are saying, As long as they feed, cloth, and put a roof over your head, You should listen to every damn word they say.


...now I'm not saying that if they tell you to murder someone go do it, THINK FOR YOURSELF AND QUESTION EVERYTHING!