whoa! just found this on pbnation!

[irbodden]

Re: and MY thread gets closed for this!

Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh
Hans Blixs is a very smart guy. He knows what he's doing. He is collecting all the evidence and then is going to report on it to the UN.

He is the same guy that gave North Korea the all clear a few years ago. Now, are you going to tell me their nuclear weapon program started AFTER he left in 1998?

Smart, eh.. possibly. Capable chief weapon inspector? No way.

[Koosh]

He is the same guy that gave North Korea the all clear a few years ago. Now, are you going to tell me their nuclear weapon program started AFTER he left in 1998?

I can't comment on the N Korea thing, I hadn't heard about it.

He didn't leave Iraq by choice in 1998. The US told him to get out because we were going to bomb them, http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9811/11/iraq.02/

But hey, your a smart guy, what would YOU do in this situation? Look at it from all angles. Bomb Iraq, thus risking US service men? Hold out for Peace? More sanctions? I'll try to dig up the article that says that over 5,300 Iraqi Children die each Month from preventable diseases and other things that can be helped with the lifting of our sanctions... yet we wonder why they don't like us?

I can honestly say I have no friggen clue what I would do here. I can hope for peace, but if I were in the same situation that our Gov't is in now I don't know what I would do... I guess thats having faith in my government...

[irbodden]

Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh


I can't comment on the N Korea thing, I hadn't heard about it.

He didn't leave Iraq by choice in 1998. The US told him to get out because we were going to bomb them, http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9811/11/iraq.02/

But hey, your a smart guy, what would YOU do in this situation? Look at it from all angles. Bomb Iraq, thus risking US service men? Hold out for Peace? More sanctions? I'll try to dig up the article that says that over 5,300 Iraqi Children die each Month from preventable diseases and other things that can be helped with the lifting of our sanctions... yet we wonder why they don't like us?

I can honestly say I have no friggen clue what I would do here. I can hope for peace, but if I were in the same situation that our Gov't is in now I don't know what I would do... I guess thats having faith in my government...

We are talking about North Korea, he was searching for their Nuclear program up until 1998 and found nothing. When we all know now, they have a thriving nuclear program being devolped.

[irbodden]

Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh
I'll try to dig up the article that says that over 5,300 Iraqi Children die each Month from preventable diseases and other things that can be helped with the lifting of our sanctions... yet we wonder why they don't like us?

Would the source be CNN or the ALCU?

Sure, we could lift economic sancations so then the food and money could go to the children, in theory. When we all know Iraq is ruled by a "dictator" who wouldn't be nice and "share". The food and money would not go to the children, but to the army and to further devolping their aresenals. Don't be so nieve.

[Koosh]

Well, My info can't be confirmed by the large news groups. I wrote an essay on the Iraq thing a few months ago for school, and stumbled on the 5300 iraqi childern thing thre. Looking for it just now I saw it was on a VERY unbiased webpage, www.endiraqsanction.net or something like that

But I'm still looking for the blix N Korea thing, mind giving me a link to it

[irbodden]

http://cns.miis.edu/research/korea/nuc/iaea9799.htm

Google> Hans Blix North Korean :click enter:> First Site

[845]

I think Bush should finish up with Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden before he goes and attacks Iraq. He should be careful not to take more than he can eat.

[HoppysMag]

the UN has no real power... they do great thing with like UNICF, and the medical stuff they do, but cant tell anyone to do anything... they just dont have the strength.

as for that poster... that is one reason, wich should be enough, to simply turn north korea into a glass bottem self iluminating series of smoking craters.

[Koosh]

Originally posted by irbodden
http://cns.miis.edu/research/korea/nuc/iaea9799.htm

Google> Hans Blix North Korean :click enter:> First Site

I only saw Blix's name there once, right here:

"IAEA Director General Hans Blix says that talks between the IAEA and North Korea over the suspected North Korean nuclear program have stalled.

AFP (Paris), 17 March 1997; in FBIS-TAC-97-076, 17 March 1997.

Look at this one:

24 March 1999
IAEA officials report that critical parts of the North Korean 50MW gas-graphite reactor at Yongbyon have been missing since 1994 when IAEA inspectors first arrived at the site. The parts are vital for controlling the nuclear reaction in the reactor's graphite core. The equipment can be used in the construction of another nuclear reactor.

Stewart Stogel and Ben Barber, Washington Times, 24 March 1999, p.3.


So it looks to me like they found that Korea was hiding some things from us, basically we are at the same thing with Iraq right now.

[pbstu]

there wont be an all out attack on N. korea any time soon, you dont just go ahead and attack countries with nuclear capabilities, your really asking for it if you do. especially in N. koreas case, being communist and having a lot of hate for the US. as for N. koreas nuclear program, as far as i know it was originally intended as a power supply since N. korea is severly lacking in power, among other things. the US didnt like N. korea having anything nuclear so they started supplying them with oil, and N. korea abandoned the nuclear program. eventually this agreement broke down, i cant remember who started it, but it did, N. korea stopped getting oil from the US and so broke all the seals and removed all the cameras that were monitoring their dead nuclear program, and theyve started it back up, thats my understanding of the situation.

you cant use Saddam being a dictator as an excuse to go ahead and bomb iraq either, the US has supported plenty of dictators when it served their purpose, ex: Kuwait in the 80s, S. Vietnam in the 60s, and S. korea too i think, and theres a few more i cant remember, and some of those US supported dictators were really nasty. Also expect this to be a long war against iraq, george W. should take a lesson from his daddy and leave Baghdad alone, colin Powell said it would be another Stalingrad back in the 80s when they had the chance and the same probably holds true today.


stu.

[irbodden]

Originally posted by TheFlamingKoosh


I only saw Blix's name there once, right here:

"IAEA Director General Hans Blix says that talks between the IAEA and North Korea over the suspected North Korean nuclear program have stalled.

AFP (Paris), 17 March 1997; in FBIS-TAC-97-076, 17 March 1997.

Look at this one:

24 March 1999
IAEA officials report that critical parts of the North Korean 50MW gas-graphite reactor at Yongbyon have been missing since 1994 when IAEA inspectors first arrived at the site. The parts are vital for controlling the nuclear reaction in the reactor's graphite core. The equipment can be used in the construction of another nuclear reactor.

Stewart Stogel and Ben Barber, Washington Times, 24 March 1999, p.3.


So it looks to me like they found that Korea was hiding some things from us, basically we are at the same thing with Iraq right now.

Do you even know what that is?

[spydervenom]

i dont really see why they would want to publisize that info right away because before the US does anything, they are going to have a puppet gov't set up ready to take control of Iraq.

when info like Iraq has nuclear and biological weapons comes out, Iraq will be ready for a war wich isnt what we want(although i'm sure they are ready now) but we want to get them w/ their heads turned.


and the 5 permanent SC members are US, britain, france, russia, and china.

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by pbstu
there wont be an all out attack on N. korea any time soon, you dont just go ahead and attack countries with nuclear capabilities, your really asking for it if you do.

mutual assured destrection, just with out the mutual part. if they have any weapons they will be small and short range... the moment the launch one any troops in the country will pull out, quarenteen the country and then out ICBM's and tridant subs will rain nuclear fire on it.... same thing if iraq uses chem weapons.... although the thing i do like about iraq is after 9-11 they made a point to denounce all connections with it and supposedly a quote from one of thier press relations guys was " we know better than to do that, because your bombs would riegn down on our citys" they know who is really incharge.

[Jack_Dubious]

Well i wanted to get my $0.02 in before this thread closes but whats the use....we are gonna invade Iraq like it or not. And the funny thing is while Im against the invasion of Iraq, Im still a Bush supporter. I think hes actually done a pretty damn good job...all things considered.
The economy was already on the way down even before he took office. I havent seen the democrats present a solution for the economy...and Im horrified at the thought of what would have happened if Gore was in office......


"Alexander the Great was said to have looked out upon his kingdom and wept for there were no more lands to conquer."

JDub

[Koosh]

Originally posted by irbodden


Do you even know what that is?

Do I know what WHAT is? So I guess I don't?