Quick questions for those against war..

[shartley]

[Restola]

A point overlooked so far.

Nice post shartley.

[Jack_Dubious]

Originally posted by Restola

How do you give a $90,000 tax cut to a family earning $55,000/year? Im sure the economic power-house that is Canada found a way, right?

Um...I think you should read what he wrote again.


JDub

[Restola]

Um...I think I read it just fine.

The point is that if you give a tax cut, people who pay MORE taxes will get MORE of a tax cut.

Thats pretty basic stuff to any non-liberal.

[Collegeboy]

Restola, when you quote someone make sure you quote ALL of it.

After where you conveniently cut off my statement. I said when you consider the rights of woman and such.

[Restola]

Please define "and such".

Your statement was conveniently written so it can mean anything you'd like, when defined as narrowly or broadly as you please.

Iraq is also the only country that employes RAPISTS (a copy of this "certificate" can be viewed in a recent British report).

So youre statement (viewed in full)...

For no matter what you think about Saddam, he has given his people the most freedoms of just about any Arab country, when you consider rights of woman and such.

...indicates that you believe being legally RAPED by a government official constitutes more freedom than women have in "just about any Arab country" when, in fact, Iraq is the only country in the world that does this.

So even when we take your new definition of "and such" to mean ONLY "the rights of women", you are still completely and totally wrong, or have a really sick view on the rights of women.

[Collegeboy]

I never hear do serial rapist employed by the government. What has these women done that was illegal.

I heard of Saddam's on going around chopping the heads of prostitutes off, but that is of course because they was breaking the law. Kind of rough, but it is the law.

Woman in Iraq can go around uncovered, can go to school, can learn to read, can own property, can work, gets a 5 year maternity leave (paid) when she has a child, and such.

And such means the same as etc. Meaning more of the one infront of what I am talking about,. Meaning you should understanding what I am saying, so I need not list anymore.

[MarkM]

Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
A US restructured middle east would bring peace, stability, and prosperity to the most violent region in world history. Don't believe me? Look at Japan, look at Germany.

???? that was a biz deal bought with the loaning of US funds for a forced payment of retribution in the form of trade to pay for losing the war.

The same war that incidently the UK only finished paying back last October.....you remember, the one where we were fighting for 3+ years on our own.

Wether people like it or not the US/UK Will be going to war it is just the timing that still needs to be announced.

Last time is was mentioned earlier that the oil supplies were left alone....yeah they were and why? 'cos it was decided to listen to the UN mandate that said Kuwait's borders were to be secured so war had to stop and withdraw......shame some soldiers had to withdraw from the shadows and pack up the sniper rifles....

[Restola]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
What has these women done that was illegal.

LOL I cant believe this!

What could the women have done that you think could justify being RAPED? I would truely love to hear your answer.

[Collegeboy]

I don't judge other peoples cultures or laws by my culture and beliefs. There is a word for that, but I can't remember it.

If it is in their laws that this is a punishment for whatever crime was committed and the woman committed the crime then I really have nothing to say about it.

[Restola]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
If it is in their laws that this is a punishment for whatever crime was committed and the woman committed the crime then I really have nothing to say about it.

Thats...amazing

Thank you

[Collegeboy]

Oh ok, whatever. So do you feel you have the right to judge another culture based on your ideas and principles. I sure hope not.

Do I think the rapping of women is wrong yes. I am also against the death penalty for I think it is wrong. Do I have the right to say that Iraq should change for it goes against my beliefs, no.

[SampsonFBC]

In the early 90's the Kurds (if I recall correctly) were going to try and assasinate Saddam and the US sent over a few CIA agents to help them work out a plan. Well they had really nice plan laid out and all and sent it back to the US and waited from an OK for the US gov. Well the gov. said no and the Kurds decided not to go through with it. When the CIA agents got back they were tried for trying to assasinate a leader (or something to that extent) The agent said that he quit the CIA because when your boss is trying to get you arrested then it might be time to leave. He said it was probably the best time to kill Saddam and it would have been Iraqis overthrowing their gov. and putting someone they WANT in power.

The Brit on the security council said it nicely. He said the last time something like this happened was WW2 and everyone thought that certainly no one can be that cruel and that Hitler wasn't a threat and would eventually go away, he wasn't going to do anything. They couldn't have been further from the truth. League of Nations comes to mind, all talk no action.

[Restola]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Do I have the right to say that Iraq should change for it goes against my beliefs, no.

You have said everything I wanted you to say.

In fact, lets see that one more time for the record:

{Question}: What could the women have done that you think could justify being RAPED?

Originally posted by Collegeboy
{Answer}: If it is in their laws that this is a punishment for whatever crime was committed and the woman committed the crime then I really have nothing to say about it.

You think raping of women is ok, as long as the government says it is.

I wont even bother to type out the implications of your liberal appeasement ideas if they ever became policy (were you a strong supporter of the holocaust? It was government sanctioned.)

Keep typing Collegeboy. You'll keep discrediting yourself.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


Do I think the rapping of women is wrong yes.