Quick questions for those against war..

[Restola]

No problem

[Collegeboy]

[Restola]

Whoa this sounds like something that needs to be dealt with in PMs.

Chill out. We were having a lively discussion!

[Smoke]

Alright son, I've had enough. I honestly could give a crap less about you or your "beliefs". You've made this too personal, and have just crossed the line. I never insulted your father,and never would, beause I believe that is wrong. That pic was NOT aimed toward you, so GET OVER IT YA CRYBABY!!! While you're fuming pissed, I'm sitting back and enjoying every minute, because it's a figgin online forum! JEEZ!! You can't take these things too seriously! To tell you the truth, I actually enjoyed debating with you. It was a challenge, due to the constant "one-upping" of eachother. You my friend need to take a chill-pill, and lighten up. I mean, my god! You're talking about fighting me if you ever see me! What's wrong with you? Have you no decency? I mean sure, sometimes debates turn ugly, but I NEVER flamed you or your father, I don't know where you get THAT idea. Just lighten up man, don't take it too personal. That pic was just inserted at random, I honestly didn't even know you were the last person to post. Besides, is that pic offensive? No. Did I flame you? No. So why are you mad? If you still got a problem, keep it strictly PM.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by Restola

Thats news to me. Could you elaborate?

There is a write off for small business owners if they purchase a vehicle for work. It has to be a very large vehicle (SUV size, big rig size, etc) to qualify. This is a write off for any small business owner. So if you are a real estate agent and do not need a big rig for your work you still might be encouraged to get a gas guzzler for tax write off reasons.

For this reason we are forcing my father to buy a Hummer for his farm (just kidding....I'm not that much of a hypocrite but we have joked about it).

EDIT

As for the the middle east deal I admit that the middle east has serious gender oppression issues. It did give me pleasure to see women visiting beauty shops again after we took out the Taliban

Still we cannot force gender equality (and other things) onto other countries by force of arms. These issues do not have quick fixes to them. Social change, for the most part, must happen internally. Besides we don't have to go half way across the world to save women from being raped. I don't know about some of your states but we are seeing cuts in police due to state budget shortfalls. One of the best things we can do is lead by example.

[Restola]

Ok thats what I thought your reply would be. I would argue that a tax break meant to make expanding a small buisnesses easier isn't "encouraging suv purchasing" simply because some people might abuse it

[aaron_mag]

See my edit above as well. I won't say you are wrong because even I admit that there are two sides of the coin to the write off issue. It could very well be argued that it is meant to help the contractors/farmers/etc who need big rigs for their work.

Still you must admit that it is getting to be ridiculous on the road. Defensive driving is almost starting to mean he with the biggest vehicle survives the accident .

Time to go to bed.....

[Restola]

Originally posted by aaron_mag
Social change, for the most part, must happen internally.

Its not a social issue (Saudi Arabia cutting the hands off criminals may be a social issue). This is an issue of a government keeping its citizens under control through terror, including the punishment of rape. THAT we won't be finding in America, no matter what budget cuts are made

Just another reason (although admittedly not enough on its own) that war is justified in my opinion.