The Official Iraq War Thread...

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by FESTUS33


It's an old American Tradition of taking a large shell, and swaging the neck down to accept a smaller caliber bullet.
In this country We call it WildCatting! Many WildCat Round's have become Industry Standard's over the Decade's
.243 Winchester is nothing more than a .308 Win necked down to 6 m.m., 7m.m.-08 is the same cartridge necked to Guess What!!. This trend can be used with any Base Cartridge.
Another example is Parent cartridge 30-06 Springfield
Necked up to .35 caliber is the .35 Whelen, Necked down
to 7m.m. it become's the .280 Remington AKA the 7m.m. Express, Next step down is .270 Winchester, 6.5m.m.-06 This is a .264 bore, Now We come to the .25-06, and Yes there is a 6m.m.-06. This does'nt even go into cartridge's based on this brass and caliber's with Improved shoulder angle's.
Needless to say these are only two of Hundred's of possible Base cartridge's. The possibilitie's{sp} are virtualy endless. it's taken me over 35 yr's to gain the understanding I have of the Art of making ammunition that I have and I'm just glossing the top of it here.
Sorry for the Thesis! But You Did Ask.
Rick

he he brain fart... and lack of forthought. and miss information of the casings and ballistic data ( tabel showed what i thought was a 5.54 as haveing 3x the ftlbs at 100yrds but 1/3 the velocity)

[FESTUS33]

Originally posted by pbzmag


The military version was called the M16A1. From what I read,the M16 was brand new and was not field tested. Majority of of soldiers in Vietnam either were not properly trained or not trained at all. Repair and cleaning kit were also non existant when it was released.

NEGATIVE!!
The first issued Weapon's were Colt Manufacture M-16's
the M-16A1 was an upgrade after combat issued weapon's showed a propensity to jam. It must be noted for historical accuracy that these weapon's were issued with NO CLEAN Instructions, and due to a change from Stick Propellant to Ball Propellant {Without Notification To Anyone at the Ordinance Dept.} this proved to be Fatal to Many Troop's. I carried an M-16A1 when I served in '77-78' and Loved My Sweet 16. the Difference from the original design to the A1 was the addition of a forward assist for the bolt.{That's the little button that stick's out of the Right side of the action just behind the ejection port} Check Me On It!
Rick

When you get as Old as I am, you pick up a lot of what Seem's to be Useless Knowledge.
No Knowledge Is Ever Useless!!

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by FESTUS33


NEGATIVE!!
The first issued Weapon's were Colt Manufacture M-16's
the M-16A1 was an upgrade after combat issued weapon's showed a propensity to jam. It must be noted for historical accuracy that these weapon's were issued with NO CLEAN Instructions, and due to a change from Stick Propellant to Ball Propellant {Without Notification To Anyone at the Ordinance Dept.} this proved to be Fatal to Many Troop's. I carried an M-16A1 when I served in '77-78' the Difference from the original design to the A1 was the addition of a forward assist for the bolt.{That's the little button that stick's out of the Right side of the action just behind the ejection port} Check Me On It!
Rick

When you get as Old as I am, you pick up a lot of what Seem's to be Useless Knowledge.
No Knowledge Is Ever Useless!!

he right.

[pbzmag]

Originally posted by FESTUS33


NEGATIVE!!
The first issued Weapon's were Colt Manufacture M-16's
the M-16A1 was an upgrade after combat issued weapon's showed a propensity to jam. It must be noted for historical accuracy that these weapon's were issued with NO CLEAN Instructions, and due to a change from Stick Propellant to Ball Propellant {Without Notification To Anyone at the Ordinance Dept.} this proved to be Fatal to Many Troop's. I carried an M-16A1 when I served in '77-78' the Difference from the original design to the A1 was the addition of a forward assist for the bolt.{That's the little button that stick's out of the Right side of the action just behind the ejection port} Check Me On It!
Rick

When you get as Old as I am, you pick up a lot of what Seem's to be Useless Knowledge.
No Knowledge Is Ever Useless!!

That's right! I forgot about Colt. Thanks for the reminder.

[FESTUS33]

Sorry!
But with 30 yr's experience, You are'nt going to argue gun's with me!
Good Info Just Unorganized!
Rick

[pbzmag]

Not gonna argue with you like CB would.

[cphilip]

Hmmm.... Abu Abbas was found in Iraq! Now here is a notorious international terrorist that been on the run for years and was being hidden by SADDAM!!! How interesting. There is a link between another terrorist group right there. One of the realy old Palestinian ones. Course we knew he was active with them. Saddam openly paid suicide bombers families for thier efforts against Israelis. And this one specificaly killed an American. He was tried in absentia in Italy and sentanced there long time ago. He has been hiding in bagdad apparently...

And the secret Oil pipeline from Iraq to Syria? A direct method to curcumvent UN sanctions. Cut off. Seems it was illegaly built and Syria was getting half priced oil and Saddam getting all the money. Direct violation of UN Sanctions. No wonder the Syrians are so pissed off. Seems it was supplying 1/3 of their needs!

And significant Arms found from Russia sold AFTER UN Sanctions. Russia looking pretty bad here!!!

The jigg is up for a lot of people now. Some real interesting stuff is now making some folks look very bad....

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by pbzmag
Not gonna argue with you like CB would.

Even though I know it is a joke, I will say that no I would not argue. You can't argue with someone who had direct experience in the exact thing you are trying to talk about.

[Collegeboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/voices_from_iraq/html/abbas.stm

So he lives in the UK. Hum interesting.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Even though I know it is a joke, I will say that no I would not argue. You can't argue with someone who had direct experience in the exact thing you are trying to talk about.

No? LOL You sure did it a lot here on AO.

[1stdeadeye]

LOL

Originally posted by shartley

No? LOL You sure did it a lot here on AO.

Ha ha! Ain't that the truth!

[Rebel46_99]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


Even though I know it is a joke, I will say that no I would not argue. You can't argue with someone who had direct experience in the exact thing you are trying to talk about.

Hey Phil... Can we get this bronzed and notarized? In a few days he'll swear he didn't say it.

DW

[Collegeboy]

No I haven't. Shartley did not have experience with what makes a terrorist, but with what is a terrorist, or so he says. Shartley does not have experience of what a standard non us military person goes through in a foreign country, but instead what a US Soldier goes through in a foreign country. etc........

Anymore stupid remarks?

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
No I haven't. Shartley did not have experience with what makes a terrorist, but with what is a terrorist, or so he says. Shartley does not have experience of what a standard non us military person goes through in a foreign country, but instead what a US Soldier goes through in a foreign country. etc........

Anymore stupid remarks?

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by shartley

Nope never said you lied.