The Official Iraq War Thread...

[cphilip]

Originally posted by aaron_mag


Here is a quote I found on the web (boston.com).


These are the forces (Iraqi exiles) that Rumsfeld does not want coming in from Iran. They hate Saddam and are coming over to fight him. I can understand why the U.S. is concerned as this is a rogue force that the U.S. does not coordinate with. Still they don't like Saddam and want to fight him. Seems like we may be able to make some use of them.

Here is the link to the story on CNN.com
http://cnn.nl/2003/US/03/28/sprj.irq...ria/index.html

Ok I with you now... I suspect its just so we do not get into a coordination problem. And end up shooting each other and all. I am certain there will be a proper time though.

Well if one must start thinking about common causes and aliances that they may have with the Muslim Arab world then one only needs to take note of the fact that Saddam offered rewards and paid rewards to Suicide bombers in Palestine to Palistinians for years. And one may note the finding of a mural on a captured Iraqis compound of the Twin Towers showing a plane flying into them. However seperate and different they all may be the are indeed united in a cause. And have will aid each other in that cause. One can look at the style of fighting which heavily relies on terrorism tacktics and styles. And the manipulation of the people to fight. Using squads of terrorists to keep the people in line. Its self evident I think. Its extremist and brutal and similar and cooperative.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
So Saddam Hussien and Al Queda are now friends of ours?

NO, we're talking about them two hating us.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by cphilip
Ok I with you now... I suspect its just so we do not get into a coordination problem. And end up shooting each other and all. I am certain there will be a proper time though.

Could be conflict of interest as well. I don't know much about this group. There could be some very good reasons that we don't want them in Iraq (similar reasons to Turkey fighting starting a fight with the Kurds). My post was actually a question for anyone who might know more about this group. Is there some good reasons why we might not want them joining in the fight or is it because they are not coordinated with U.S. forces?

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife


NO, we're talking about them two hating us.

But by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Saddam and Al Queda are both our friends.

So what is it?

I like your title.

I am glad we are mature and not talking about each other.


I guess maturity is what experience will teach me.

[aaron_mag]

What are you talking about CB? Basically they are saying that while Saddam and Al Queda have major differences they both hate the U.S. more than they hate each other. Hence my enemy's enemy is my friend. At any rate it is not worth getting into a debate over. I am curious about links to Al Queda (sp?) and Saddam and why we don't want these exiled Iraqis to come in and fight Saddam.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy



But by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Saddam and Al Queda are both our friends.

So what is it?

I like your title.

I am glad we are mature and not talking about each other.


I guess maturity is what experience will teach me.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by aaron_mag
What are you talking about CB? Basically they are saying that while Saddam and Al Queda have major differences they both hate the U.S. more than they hate each other. Hence my enemy's enemy is my friend. At any rate it is not worth getting into a debate over. I am curious about links to Al Queda (sp?) and Saddam and why we don't want these exiled Iraqis to come in and fight Saddam.

I am just trying to show how stupid the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend bit is.

There is no way one can say the US is a friend of Al Queda or Saddam. But by using that idea we can say that one of them or both are our friend.

[HoppysMag]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


I am just trying to show how stupid the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend bit is.

There is no way one can say the US is a friend of Al Queda or Saddam. But by using that idea we can say that one of them or both are our friend.

translated into english

"i screwed up and am trying to save face"

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by HoppysMag


translated into english

"i screwed up and am trying to save face"

Yeah that must be it.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


I am just trying to show how stupid the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend bit is.

There is no way one can say the US is a friend of Al Queda or Saddam. But by using that idea we can say that one of them or both are our friend.

You are taking it from the wrong perspective. The person who made this comment above is taking it from the Al Queda (spelling doesn't look right) perspective. Al Queda has no reason to love Saddam EXCEPT that the United States is an enemy to Saddam. Since Al Queda is an enemy to the United States my enemy's enemy is my friend works.....

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by aaron_mag


You are taking it from the wrong perspective. The person who made this comment above is taking it from the Al Queda (spelling doesn't look right) perspective. Al Queda has no reason to love Saddam EXCEPT that the United States is an enemy to Saddam. Since Al Queda is an enemy to the United States my enemy's enemy is my friend works.....

I understand that, I just don't like that saying. I am just showing how that can be used to prove other things.

[Jack_Dubious]

But what if I am attacked by the enemy of my enemy, who is friends with a friend of my enemy's friend, who also happens to be my father's brothers, former roommate. What does that make us?



JDub

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious
But what if I am attacked by the enemy of my enemy, who is friends with a friend of my enemy's friend, who also happens to be my father's brothers, former roommate. What does that make us?



JDub

dead or confused or both

[Sooky]

Originally posted by aaron_mag
I am curious about links to Al Queda (sp?) and Saddam

Sorry if OT, but I thought it was funny!

[Hasty8]

Originally posted by Jack_Dubious


Because Bush Sr. understood that invading Iraq and taking out Saddam would have terrible political ramifications.

Now let me ask a question:
If we are so big on "democracy", how come we didnt install a democratic government in Kuwait, when we liberated it?



JDub

First off Jack, we were not there to change Kuwaits political government. We were there, as you said, to liberate it. As for the comment of going after Saddam, you are true. In asense. HAd America continued to press the war we would have violated the UN sanction and would then ourselves be the lawbreakers.