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  • SlipknotX556
    Registered User
    • Nov 2001
    • 5054

    #61
    Originally posted by mag-hatter


    whats to be proud of? the slavery? the fact that they got their asses kicked? the fact that they inbreed (jk lol)? just think about what you're engraving onto yourself.

    1/4 of southern people owned slaves, some were even allowed to learn how to read and wrtie, they were treated like family. But then you have that small amount of people who owned them and beat them and killed them, but it was a small amount. Also the south were not the first to have slaves, slavery was around for a very long time, dating back to the time of the aztec people. I believe the north even had slavery for awhile, during the revolution.

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    • MiniMag84
      Needs to pee
      • Feb 2003
      • 450

      #62
      Owning a large plantation and slaves was the ideal life for a southern man back in what? 1735? But the men that could not afford to buy the land and slaves still dreamed of one day owning it.

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      • Army
        Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

        • Oct 2000
        • 5785

        #63
        If you know NOTHING of the North/South conflict, please do not prove your ignorance by posting silly drivel.

        States Rights was the centerpiece for secession. Slavery had nothing to do with the declarations of war until 1863 (yes, that's 3 years into the war, not the beginning). Lincoln himself, at the start of his first term, refused to declare and end to slavery, as he knew legally that it was a state issue. Many southern blacks owned plantations and slaves too, because some STATES did not agree with the Dred Scott case, and excersised their constitutional option of not being relegated to Federal opinion.

        Southern pride was already an established attitude long before the Civil War. Southern gentlemen prided themselves on their "gentile" ways of society, and looked down upon the boastful prudes of the North. The South embraced the land and their history, while the North wrapped itself in modern technology. It was attitudes waiting for a fight, and they got it. City boy Vs Country boy, it was inevitable.

        The only reason the CSA battle flag is now thought of as redneck or racist, is because of all the junk seen on TV, and the false history you are being taught in school. Do you have any problem with flying your own states flag? No? Well, that is the same pride that keeps living on in the South.


        As for a CSA Battle flag tattoo on a transplanted Yank......yall's itchin' fer trouble, boy!

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        • Heat
          hello lamewads
          • Oct 2000
          • 4463

          #64
          Originally posted by Army
          If you know NOTHING of the North/South conflict, please do not prove your ignorance by posting silly drivel.

          States Rights was the centerpiece for secession. Slavery had nothing to do with the declarations of war until 1863 (yes, that's 3 years into the war, not the beginning). Lincoln himself, at the start of his first term, refused to declare and end to slavery, as he knew legally that it was a state issue. Many southern blacks owned plantations and slaves too, because some STATES did not agree with the Dred Scott case, and excersised their constitutional option of not being relegated to Federal opinion.

          Southern pride was already an established attitude long before the Civil War. Southern gentlemen prided themselves on their "gentile" ways of society, and looked down upon the boastful prudes of the North. The South embraced the land and their history, while the North wrapped itself in modern technology. It was attitudes waiting for a fight, and they got it. City boy Vs Country boy, it was inevitable.

          The only reason the CSA battle flag is now thought of as redneck or racist, is because of all the junk seen on TV, and the false history you are being taught in school. Do you have any problem with flying your own states flag? No? Well, that is the same pride that keeps living on in the South.


          As for a CSA Battle flag tattoo on a transplanted Yank......yall's itchin' fer trouble, boy!
          werd! Army knows his STUFF! What baffels me is why are blacks still trying to take whites to court saying we "own" then for making them slaves? Don't they know that black ppl held slaves too?! I'll stop there

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          • darklord
            missing my matrix
            • May 2002
            • 2105

            #65
            This reminds me too much of an episode of South Park... Chef wanted to change South Park's flag (a picture of a black guy being hanged with four white guys throwing their arms up), but local gun aficionado Jimbo kept insisting that the flag had historical value.... lol, good stuff.

            The bottom line is, who cares? Unless he's going around acting blatantly racist I have no problem with it. I mean, if you have a German flag on your arm, does that make you a Nazi? No, of course not.

            Even if all you haters keep flaming him and posting against his actions, does this mean he's going to not do it? Nope, not at all. Does it influence his decision? Possibly. But honestly, if some idiot got the Sopranos logo tattoed on his back, would Italians be all up in arms about it? No. You people are just trying too hard to get something out of it... by the same means, I could say "You are human. Humans kill babies. Therefore, you kill babies." Baby killer!!!!!

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            • ERut

              #66
              Originally posted by darklord

              Even if all you haters keep flaming him and posting against his actions, does this mean he's going to not do it? Nope, not at all. Does it influence his decision? Possibly. But honestly, if some idiot got the Sopranos logo tattoed on his back, would Italians be all up in arms about it? No. You people are just trying too hard to get something out of it... by the same means, I could say "You are human. Humans kill babies. Therefore, you kill babies." Baby killer!!!!!
              Like I've said before, I know that you're probably not a racist(but come to it, you haven't actually said anything to the contrary). Still, I dont think its a good idea to get something that to most people has a connotation of racism, regardless of your reasons for getting it.

              People aren't going to assume that your tattoo is about southern pride, especially because you aren't an "old dixie".

              Besides, what if you do meet the girl of your dream, and she just happens to be black. I dont think shes going to like it, even if it is about southern pride.

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              • NORCAL
                Registered User
                • Jun 2003
                • 34

                #67
                Back to the original topic

                I got a Tribal design that covers the outside of my lower left ankle up my calf. One color, 200 bucks. The only problem is they are addictive, you intend on getting one small to medium size then you want more and bigger. as for design, who cares! Its your body, your decision.

                As for the person that said you won't last in his hood (orange county). Isn't Orange County rich white republican teritory. What are they gonna do, cut his schools state funding, recall his governor then sick the NRA on him?

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                • ERut

                  #68
                  Re: Back to the original topic

                  Originally posted by NORCAL
                  As for the person that said you won't last in his hood (orange county). Isn't Orange County rich white republican teritory. What are they gonna do, cut his schools state funding, recall his governor then sick the NRA on him?
                  Yep, it is, but its also surrounded by the rest of CA, which happens to be overwhelmingly liberal.

                  Besides, the liberal parts is where he might run into trouble with a tat like that...

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                  • ZAust
                    the righteous, the weeping
                    • May 2003
                    • 1806

                    #69
                    damn it was hot today. lets blame it on the democrats. and yes, orange county is a traditional white, republican stronghold. except about 10 miles northwest of there is south central la. and my friend, youll last about 5 minutes(if that long) there.
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                    • Pokaris
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 89

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MiniMag84
                      *Not siding with the confederate haters*

                      But the blacks that lived in the North were free and usually had jobs. Plus the opportunity of boasting about their 50 acres of farm.
                      When was the Civil Rights movement vs the Civil War? Where'd all these black farmers go if it was such an opportunity?

                      Check your history again, you just got PWN3D

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                      • MiniMag84
                        Needs to pee
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 450

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Pokaris


                        When was the Civil Rights movement vs the Civil War? Where'd all these black farmers go if it was such an opportunity?

                        Check your history again, you just got PWN3D

                        Hmmm, I think it's in my U.S. History book somewhere. I'll look it up again though.

                        But really, "you just got PWN3D" is a little childish considering you just challenged my statement. I'm not trying to offend anyone in this thread, I suggest you do the same.

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                        • NORCAL
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 34

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ZAust
                          damn it was hot today. lets blame it on the democrats. and yes, orange county is a traditional white, republican stronghold. except about 10 miles northwest of there is south central la. and my friend, youll last about 5 minutes(if that long) there.
                          It is hot today, damn democrats. Smoggy too, damn republicans, forgot to mention the humidity, damn green party. Party Politics suck.

                          Any way, that kid is from OC not South Central, no matter how close he is it is still a different world.

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                          • AndrewGore(OTB)
                            OTB TECHno man
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 76

                            #73
                            Is this about tattoos anymore? anywho, Im just waiting to see if can get the artist that did some board graphics to draw something up for me.

                            andrew

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                            • darklord
                              missing my matrix
                              • May 2002
                              • 2105

                              #74
                              Originally posted by ERut


                              Like I've said before, I know that you're probably not a racist(but come to it, you haven't actually said anything to the contrary). Still, I dont think its a good idea to get something that to most people has a connotation of racism, regardless of your reasons for getting it.
                              I'm not a racist. I'm very much against racism, and I'm asian. I just don't care for this fanaticism about some issues... I agree it may not be a good idea, especially if he got lost in say, Harlem, but it's his body, and whether he does something stupid to it or not is his own decision.

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                              • MiniMag84
                                Needs to pee
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 450

                                #75
                                Every time someone say something along the lines of, "don't get the tattoo." Slipknot or someone shoots him down. This thread seems to serve no real purpose. If you want it, get it. But don't sit and shoot down every single person saying you shouldn't get it. If you're that determined just go get it.

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