Liberal or Conservative?

[danheneise]

Hey guys i need help with homework for my Senior Government class and need to ask 10 people weather they're Liberal or Conservative and why? So i figuered this would be a great place to ask. And it's due tomorrow so i kinda need your answers/oppinions quickly.

Are you Liberal or Conservative? Why?

[Kevmaster]

Socially: Liberal

Fiscally: Conservative


what I mean: I am all about self-responsiblity, self-determination, self-everything.

-gay? Its not my cup of tea, but fine (liberal)
-social security? eliminate it (conservative)
-medicare? same (conservative)
-welfare? change it into government work project (see FDR) (mixed)
-education spending? double it (liberal)
-affirmative action? no good (conservative)
-abortion? its killing (conservative)
-neo terrorism laws? i dont care if it means i have more scrutany at the airport: profile me (conservative)
-iraq pre-war intel check by congress? do it now (liberal)
-campaign finance reform? totally (mixed)


so, overall, pretty centrist. I am all about everyone accepting their own fate and doing their own thing. The government has no responsibility to do give anyone anything.

[Albinonewt]

I"m conservative, although on the social issues I'm more of a moderate conservative.

I believe in a dead constitution. It is what it is, and I don't want to see it changing due to a new interpretation or what people think. It is what it is. If the supreme court wants it to change they should write their congressman to propose an admendment.

I am a supply side economist. As such I believe in lower taxes and less entitlement and welfare.

I believe in a strong military and in having the will to use it.

I believe in State's Rights and the state's abilities to legislate themselves (as an add on to this I believe abortion should be a state issue).

I do not believe in segregation or descrimination in order to achieve someone's definition of diversity. Demographics in schools and at the work place are what they are for a reason. If you don't like fix the reason (poverty, lack of education, etc), don't just change the resuly artificially.

There are plenty of other reasons and I can give a list about a million miles long (in 10 pt. text no less). But this seems sufficient for your purpose.

[Python14]

I'm like Albinonewt and Kevmaster, but more like Kevmaster.

For the most part, I'm conservative, but I'm liberal on somethings(see Kevmasters post).

My standard of belief is "DIY-Do it yourself". I really don't care what other people do with their lives, unless it begins to infringe upon someone elses(abortion being one example of it)

But if you need it for a report or something, I'm probably in the third quartile of people(assuming liberals are left of the median and conservatives are right of the median). Conservative mostly.


One tip though: This is hardly the best group of people to poll. With the exception of Collegeboy and a few others, this is a fairly right wing-hanging forum.

[Jack_Dubious]

I believe the children are our future...Teach them well and let them lead the way...Show them all the beauty they possess inside....er..uh...sorry. Sometimes Whitney Houstons spirit gets inside me.

Im a centrist I guess. Liberal views on certain topics, and conservative on others. Although im a registered Republican, I think the Libertarian party is probably closer to my views.

JDub

[ZAust]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
Socially: Liberal

Fiscally: Conservative


what I mean: I am all about self-responsiblity, self-determination, self-everything.

-gay? Its not my cup of tea, but fine (liberal)
-social security? eliminate it (conservative)
-medicare? same (conservative)
-welfare? change it into government work project (see FDR) (mixed)
-education spending? double it (liberal)
-affirmative action? no good (conservative)
-abortion? its killing (conservative)
-neo terrorism laws? i dont care if it means i have more scrutany at the airport: profile me (conservative)
-iraq pre-war intel check by congress? do it now (liberal)
-campaign finance reform? totally (mixed)


so, overall, pretty centrist. I am all about everyone accepting their own fate and doing their own thing. The government has no responsibility to do give anyone anything.

jeez, just rip the polical views right out of my head.

[danheneise]

this is great guys thanks, any more views on this?

[Mango]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
I"m conservative, although on the social issues I'm more of a moderate conservative.

I believe in a dead constitution. It is what it is, and I don't want to see it changing due to a new interpretation or what people think. It is what it is. If the supreme court wants it to change they should write their congressman to propose an admendment.

I am a supply side economist. As such I believe in lower taxes and less entitlement and welfare.

I believe in a strong military and in having the will to use it.

I believe in State's Rights and the state's abilities to legislate themselves (as an add on to this I believe abortion should be a state issue).

I do not believe in segregation or descrimination in order to achieve someone's definition of diversity. Demographics in schools and at the work place are what they are for a reason. If you don't like fix the reason (poverty, lack of education, etc), don't just change the resuly artificially.

There are plenty of other reasons and I can give a list about a million miles long (in 10 pt. text no less). But this seems sufficient for your purpose.

[Army]

I"m conservative, although on the social issues I'm more of a moderate conservative.

I believe in a dead constitution. It is what it is, and I don't want to see it changing due to a new interpretation or what people think. It is what it is. If the supreme court wants it to change they should write their congressman to propose an admendment.

I am a supply side economist. As such I believe in lower taxes and less entitlement and welfare.

I believe in a strong military and in having the will to use it.

I believe in State's Rights and the state's abilities to legislate themselves (as an add on to this I believe abortion should be a state issue).

I do not believe in segregation or descrimination in order to achieve someone's definition of diversity. Demographics in schools and at the work place are what they are for a reason. If you don't like fix the reason (poverty, lack of education, etc), don't just change the resuly artificially.


Yeah...what he said!

I vote on two issues: Guns and Taxes. If a candidate or issue wants to raise my taxes, or restrict my gun ownership, they, or it, will NOT get my vote. I don't care how swell they are on anything else, that is my litmus test.

[danheneise]

cmon guys just 2 more, there's gotta be more oppinions out there, it'd be best if the rest of the post's don't just quote others even if you agree to an above post, i have to write this stuff down and just kind of seems wierd to say that you quoted another person.

[Fred]

Me, I'm worse actually, I'm a Libertarian!

But until the rest of the country sees the benefits of just being left alone... I tend to vote for the Conservatives running for office, and most of my specific views are dead on with Albinonewts...

---Fred

[Collegeboy]

I am a centrist (0. -.05 on the chart)

I believe like are founding fathers that we need a loose interpretation of the constitution. For times change and a society that can not change with them is forced to get left behind and become strangled by societies that can change.

I am in favor of social programs only if the people work for the money they receive. Pick up trash, clean up graffiti, cut grass, just don't sit at home collecting a check. I believe in welfare for those who work, for without it, it is my belief they could not survive. And our country will perish because of it.

I believe in a strong national government because with a strong state government we will run into the same problems we did under the Articles of Confederation. (i.e. competing with trade restrictions between each other, treaties that apply to one state that doesn't to another, a country picking on one state to make it weaker then taking it over to only then push for take over of the rest of the US, etc (read the book Independence on Trial by Frederick Marks)

I believe in AA as long as it is changed to say a leg up to those that are from disadvantaged areas. This is, IMO, needed until the national government takes over funding of public schools and makes funding equal (as in the worth of the money you get compared to the area you are in). For as it is now, the suburban school children get a far better shot in life then the inner-city or rural school children.

I believe in a woman's right to choose as in let the woman have a vote and decide if they want abortion or not. For it is not the man who suffers from a sudden pregnancy it is the woman, even though both did wrong, only one suffers. (But I am against it)

I am against the death penalty for in no society has it done any good without the killings of more innocent then guilty. You can not justify the murder of another because they murdered someone. Presently it cost more to kill someone then it does to lock them away for life, so the cost argument does not hold up. It is a barbaric act that even Jesus was against.

So there is a change in ideas from the rest, but it is mine.

[Ironmag]

I am a card carrying member of the RNC. I agree with most of the Conservative platform/views politically.

-Abortion - It's murder for "convenience", totally wrong
-Taxes - It's a redistribution of income scheme and who are you to tell someone just because they have money that you have to pay more. You by default already pay more. No one should have to pay more than 20% of their income to taxes. Also, the EITC is a perfect example of redistribution of income and these are they same people that are whining about not getting a tax rebate check. YOU DON'T PAY TAXES, MORON!
-Death sentence - If you killed someone, then you forfieted all your rights as a human.
-Affirmative action - Even though I am from a "minority" race, it is just plain wrong to GIVE someone a spot when there is someone clearly more qualified to be in that spot just for the sake of diversity. It's BS.
-Welfare - Make it into a "workfare" type system so that you don't have the same people perpetuating the poverty problem.
-Military - Why even bother having one if you are too timid to use it. It's there for a purpose, use it if the occassion calls for it.

Just some of the main things that bug me.

[davidb]

Abortion: Unborn babies don't vote. To the "compassionate" party, this effectively negates their existence. And yet the Republican party, unjustly known for its lack of compassion, cares enough to stand up for them regardless of where the majority stands. I find this to be something of a recurring theme. The very basis for Roe v. Wade, the so-called "right to privacy", exists nowhere in the constitution. Claiming that the 14th Amendment guarantees a right to privacy is, to put it diplomatically, a stretch. Further claiming that this ostensible right denies the government the ability to restrict the murder of a certain class of human is nothing short of lunacy. CONSERVATIVE

Taxes: I think the flat tax is the best option right now. Democrats are against it simply because they feel that it benefits the rich more than it does others, as if it is somehow inherently evil because the upper class will like it. Well, guess what, it benefits the economy more than it benefits the rich, and that is good for everyone. CONSERVATIVE

Death sentence: Morally somewhat opposed, which is to say that I don't think it should be viewed as a general solution so much as a very specific one. I think that the focus should be on getting away from the "revolving door" prison system, which should attenuate the need for the death penalty. MODERATE

Affirmative action: A bad idea that sounds good if you spin it the right way to somebody who is uninformed, and therefore a GOOD idea for those who rely heavily on the vote of the uninformed. You might compare it to fixing up a leak in the ceiling by mopping the floor. The thing that is unfair is not that minorities are not always hired proportionately. The thing that is unfair is that minorities tend to be less desirable to hire. To fix that, you need to focus on the earliest levels of the educational system (meaning BEFORE college). If the factory is producing flawed widgets, do you just keep fixing the widgets? No. Do you change all the doodads so that the widget will fit? No. You fix the damn factory!
CONSERVATIVE

Generally, Albinonewt, Ironmag, Army, and myself are pretty much in agreement on most things. I would love to enlighten you all with my views on the military (Hint: I leave in Feb.) but it's about 2:30 AM right now and I should probably think about heading for bed.

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BTW, Collegeboy, I cant believe you used Jesus as an argument against the death penalty. I think that his case was about the best example in history of how it can be used for GOOD, in a way. I mean come on, if he hadn't died for us I hate to think what kind of shape we'd be in.
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[Albinonewt]

Hey, if CB gets to call himself a centrist can I be a Marxist?