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  • 1stdeadeye
    Still around????
    • Jun 2002
    • 8501

    #256
    Originally posted by Collegeboy
    How can you argue against me if you do not know what I am arguing. You have said that my undying support of the Palestinians have lead to my turning a blind eye to the perils of the Israelis. If you would read, probably on this page, you will find out that I do not think the Palestinians are right in what they do; I do not think the Israelis are right in what they do. I think both sides are wrong, and both sides need to stop what they are doing.

    You do? That thread where you claimed Israelis kept the Palestinians in COncentration Camps seemed pretty one sided to me! You justify the Palestinian attacks and condemn the Israeli COUNTER-ATTACKS!

    Israel needs to immediately withdraw from the illegally occupied land, all of it, for that is the law, and they are not exempt from the law.


    Illegal according to who? The neat thing about the General Assembly in the UN is that it has no power. It's decisions are not law nor enforceable. Only Security Council resolutions are enforceable! Look it up BOY!

    What makes you think that the Palestinians harbor terrorist. Take for example, last year a student in my apartment building let one of his friends stay a week in his apartment. It turned out that friend had committed some crime and was on the run from the cops. Now should I, who never knew anything about it, be now afraid of a bomb being dropped on top of my head, for something that I have no control over. Should I have to worry about a missile being fired into my window for something I didn't know about.


    Only if I can work out this arms deal I'm involved in now! Do you prefer Stinger or RPG?

    If I am walking down a street and a murder is ahead of me in line for a cup of coffee, should I have to worry about being shot at by the cops, for I shouldn't be near someone I didn't know was a murderer.

    I would be more worried about the murderer killing me too!

    You make it seem like every Palestinian is a harbor of terrorism, and knows everything about it, knows every single one, and is completely responsible for everything that goes on in their camps. I am sorry but that is just wrong.

    Enough do! For evil to triumph it only takes good men doing nothing!

    You use the word terrorist to describe the actions of the Palestinians. But as long as we are being honest, couldn't the actions of the IDF be considered terrorist. For as long as they went after the terrorist with minimal force, that would be fine. But we know that that is not the case. They are trying to send a message to the Palestinian populace; they are trying to terrorize the Palestinian populace into giving into their demands, much to the same that the Palestinian terrorists are doing.


    No. Terrorist=irregular criminal in civilian garb targeting civilians with weapons of terror.

    IDF=Regular army in uniform who give the Palestinian Authority time to hand over wanted criminals before begining operations with more precision weaponry targeting the criminals!

    When was the last time the IDF used a bomb full of nails to maximize body count?

    It is the only way in which anything will be done. Any retaliation by Israel will end the process. You have to have someone the Palestinians trust to do the retaliation.


    The Palistinian Authority has been given the chance many times over and has done NOTHING!!!!! The IDF did give someone else a chance! As nothing was done, they must do it themselves!

    No the average Palestinian is not. The terrorist are made that way, because of the actions of Israel. How would you feel if your sister was killed while she was playing in her play pin, after an Israeli bomb was dropped on your apartment building, or missiles shot into your building, or being hit with bullets on the street? The same can be said for Israeli children.


    Whatever? They have dropped what, two bombs? That is one more then Mayor Goode dropped on the Move home in Philadelphia!

    How many bomnbs have the terrorists used?

    You should know that the Palestinians dancing in the street on 911 was a complete farce. It was old B role that was shown to suggest their celebration. Numerous people have come forward, who was in Palestine on that date, on the ONE street is supposedly happened on, and they all said that nothing like that happened. Even if it did happen, it was a small group, in a small area, not to be confused with all Palestinians celebrating.


    Don try to rehash this BS. It has been discredited before and will be again. I am just too tired to look up the links again!

    BUILD THAT WALL SHARON!!!! GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS!!!

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    • Collegeboy

      #257

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      • Rebel46_99
        USAF - '73-'77
        • Sep 2002
        • 195

        #258
        Originally posted by Collegeboy
        If you know Korean, look up what the Korean word "Hun" means, it IMO explains the feelings of many Palestinians.

        Nice job, CB! I didn't know they had "West Wing" on PLO-TV. I do know you didn't come up with that one on your own because I saw the same program last nite.

        As I and many others have said before, take your "bleeding-heart for the oppressed" opinions to a site where someone actually gives a hoot. You don't come here to talk about paintball. All you really want to do is see how close you can come to being banned by ticking everyone off and then whining about it when you are threatened with banishment.

        DW
        SHATNER Purple CnC X-Mag #XT00379

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        • Collegeboy

          #259
          Originally posted by Rebel46_99


          Nice job, CB! I didn't know they had "West Wing" on PLO-TV. I do know you didn't come up with that one on your own because I saw the same program last nite.

          As I and many others have said before, take your "bleeding-heart for the oppressed" opinions to a site where someone actually gives a hoot. You don't come here to talk about paintball. All you really want to do is see how close you can come to being banned by ticking everyone off and then whining about it when you are threatened with banishment.

          DW
          I was waiting to see how long it would take until someone would catch it.

          Do you suffer from the lake of the ability to read and comprehend to. Again read what my opinions are?

          To the rest. Shakes head. Since when was trying to show both sides of a situation, looking out for what is right and what is legal "bleeding heart."


          But to your comment, I rather have a bleeding heart then none at all.

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          • aaron_mag
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 1375

            #260
            Some of you need to read this book

            My father gave me this book and it is quite interesting. You guys need to read it. Yes he is a Bush basher but he has some interesting stories about O'Reily and Hannity.

            You will also be interested to find out that the counter terrorism plan after 9/11 as it relates to Afghanistan was drafted under Clinton and not Bush. It would be an interesting read for you guys. I can see the ulcers starting now. Kind of like when I listen to Limbaugh on the radio and get all excited. Here is the link:

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            • Rebel46_99
              USAF - '73-'77
              • Sep 2002
              • 195

              #261
              You know..... Your arguments might be entertaining if you didn't constantly repeat the phrase, "Did you read what I wrote? Go back and read it again." And that's ALL they are... OPINIONS! You know the old saying, "Opinions are like ***holes."

              No, I understand perfectly what you're trying to say, because everything you say smacks of Anti-Semitism. All of your OPINIONS are strictly Pro-Palestinian. An impartial OPINION would call for the Palestinians, Arafat in particular, to call for the cessation of any and all terrorist activities so that there would be no retaliation on the part of the IDF. But Noooo..... You lay the all the blame at the feet of the Israelis who have been fighting a war of survival for well over 2000 years.

              As I mentioned before.... There must be untold numbers of political forums you could take your ramblings to and recieve the accolades you think you deserve. But apparently, they don't want you either.

              DW
              SHATNER Purple CnC X-Mag #XT00379

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              • Collegeboy

                #262

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                • Rebel46_99
                  USAF - '73-'77
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 195

                  #263
                  Originally posted by Collegeboy
                  [B]Funny the only opinion of mine I have posted on here is that both sides are wrong in what they do, and that since Israel is breaking the law in their occupation of the land, they need to back off of the land.[B][QUOTE]

                  You're beating a dead horse here, Boy.

                  [B]All the others are me trying to interpret what the Palestinian side is to people who seemingly are closing their ears to it.[B]

                  And the key word is "interpret". You are not speaking from personal experience, regardless of how many Palestinians friends you have.

                  [B][B]

                  What would you call it when all you do is lay the blame on them?

                  .

                  [B]PS. About me wanting to push the banning line. I haven't done anything here to warrant a banning, or anything even close to it. If having an opinion is banning, then everyone on this forum would be banned. If I wanted to be banned, I would post in the style you and others do, calling people names, post cuss words, etc.. But it seems you can get away with it.[B]

                  Apparently you've done something recently to justify the heat or you wouldn't have 99% of AO ready for a face to face meeting with you.

                  DW
                  SHATNER Purple CnC X-Mag #XT00379

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                  • Collegeboy

                    #264
                    What would you call it when all you do is lay the blame on them?




                    Originally posted by Collegeboy

                    You really must not read, or understand what you are reading.

                    I never said I am speaking from personal experience. I am trying to show you all another side of the story as best that I can come up with from the interactions that I have had with people on both sides of the issue, and which live there.

                    Kind of ironic you say this to me, but do not address it to the others who are interpreting the Israeli side.

                    What can I do if people become angry over another view point? Too bad they probably will not get that chance to meet me, for it seems like I will have to work at the local boys and girls club that weekend. Being the UA vs AU weekend and all.

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                    • aaron_mag
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1375

                      #265
                      Once again a lively debate between several people becomes CB takes on all comers. Hey Albinonewt and 1stdeadeye....you guys going to comment on my fair and balanced book recommendation???
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                      • davidb
                        Understandable
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 555

                        #266
                        CB, do you notice how aaron_mag disagrees with the politics of most of the board, and agrees with many of your views, and yet he never makes anyone mad at him? Think about that before you go throwing the accusation that everyone must just be being childish and getting mad because you don't tow the party line.
                        Your head asplode!

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                        • davidb
                          Understandable
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 555

                          #267
                          Oh, and about your constant ranting about the apparent dearth of reading comprehension that somehow becomes miraculously pandemic when people read your posts, I will admit that they are occasionally a bit hard to decipher, but I hardly think it fair to blame that on the reader.
                          Your head asplode!

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                          • Collegeboy

                            #268
                            When I come flat out and say that my views put blame on both sides. And then someone comes out with a posting saying I am pro Palestinian, either they didn't read it, or b, they did not comprehend it.

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                            • -Carnifex-
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1434

                              #269
                              My brown eye'd girl, sha la la la la tee da.
                              "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
                              - Karl Marx

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                              • 1stdeadeye
                                Still around????
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 8501

                                #270
                                Re: Some of you need to read this book

                                I hate Al Franken. Not for his views. I just don't think he is funny. He did nothing for SNL. This guy's career is based on "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot".

                                He is about as funny as Joe Piscopo now!

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