AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Originally posted by Southpaw Moore makes great MOCKumentary movies a cross between stand up and crappy people skills gets people calling the cops on you BIG deal!! also pulling the wool of the nra pres. that has alsimers (sp) or whatever GOOD JOB!!
Originally posted by Southpaw Moore makes great MOCKumentary movies a cross between stand up and crappy people skills gets people calling the cops on you BIG deal!! also pulling the wool of the nra pres. that has alsimers (sp) or whatever GOOD JOB!!
OK im going to try to translate this wish me luck
Moore makes MOCKumentrues, which are a cross between stand up comedy, and by having crappy people skills getting the cops called on you. Also bothering/making fun of the president of the NRA who has alzheimer's disease Good Job!!
not sure of his point but i think this makes slightly more sense
Originally posted by einhander619 That's great for people like Moore intelligent enough to put together a movie, but there are too many hippie sheep in this world(portland) unable to form an opinion for themselves, so they latch onto something and attack anything else, like a little blind dog.(if you've ever been around one you know what I'm talking about!)
Exactly the same reason we should kill off all of the Christians.
"What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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omg, yall are titled to yalls own opions, but am i the only sane 1!!!! that movie was great. it told the truth, and how america really is. did u see that interview w/ the gun show guy, he was an *EDIT* wipe man! and do yall not think guns are over running america! think, if america had like 1/2 as many guns, i bet so many less people would die. dont ne of yall think that it is literally sad of how those people are. when he talked to that guy about the dead 6 yr. old, and the guy didnt give a flying *EDIT* that made my heart really hurt, emotianally, i would like to hear some 1's opinion that DOESN'T have a gun!
-ivan
p.s. im only 13... all this comin from me
Originally posted by irs709 p.s. im only 13... all this comin from me
really...
i dont own a gun and dont have a problem with them the fact is making guns illegal in any form will not stop people who use them for violence to stop using them or finding some other way to kill people
irs, I respect your opinion as much as I can that of a 13yo in this day & age..but just to point a couple things out..
A. You really don't know what you're talking about. Nothing wrong w/ that, because you're only 13. With age comes wisdom my friend. :) Something you need to learn, is don't accept everything you see at face value. IE, BfC..if that movie were any more distorted, it's be nothing but that scrambly crap you see when cable goes out.
B. The old adage "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" stands true today. Think about it, if a criminal is going to go and rob someone, assault someone, rape someone, or kill someone, does it make sense for them to give a flyin' hoot about (those damned) gun control laws? If they want a gun, they're going to get one regardless of what the government says.
Originally posted by einhander619 Thank god someone agrees with me. BFC WAS an interesting movie but that's all it was, interesting. If the columbine kids had killed people with riced out hondas, would he have made a movie about "the dark side of import racing?"
America is founded on violence. We killed to be here, we killed to stay together, we killed for revenge, and now we kill for other people, which I, frankly have have a huge problem with. I love how he cites our murder rate with all these other countries, of course we have way more murder!!!
We have huge immigration problems, drug-driven crime as a result of our idiotic drug laws, and a grab-bag of other condition unique to the country that controls the world.
In the end, the whole film was just Moore's opinion, fine. I can live with that. He should be glad to live in a country that even lets you have an opinion without a bullet in the head to go along with it.
That's great for people like Moore intelligent enough to put together a movie, but there are too many hippie sheep in this world(portland) unable to form an opinion for themselves, so they latch onto something and attack anything else, like a little blind dog.(if you've ever been around one you know what I'm talking about!)
That whole post is realy stupid. Guns have no purpose other than killing, so why are all you american so attached to your pressious guns. Your comment on the murder rate in the us is exactly why he made the movie. In fact lots of your comments seem to be agreeing with what michle moore is saying. I agree that the movie is VERY one sided,and his charston heston(sp) inverview was realy unfair. That man hates america plain and simple, or atleast everything about the way it is today. But over all it does bring up lots of good points. That import racer comment is a stupid comment to. you can't compare guns to hondas.
That whole post is realy stupid. Guns have no purpose other than killing, so why are all you american so attached to your pressious guns.
So we can rid ourselves of moronic pacifists like yourself who never fail to get us in some major bind, ie, WWI/II, al-qaida(sp?) & several other major confrontations over the years.
BTW, where's one of those grammar & spelling pics when you need one?
Originally posted by einhander619 That's great for people like Moore intelligent enough to put together a movie, but there are too many hippie sheep in this world(portland) unable to form an opinion for themselves, so they latch onto something and attack anything else, like a little blind dog.(if you've ever been around one you know what I'm talking about!)
wow, have you been to conifer colorado? cause I swear you're describing every single kid I know up here perfectly! What I hate mostly is when the kids argue about gun laws, crime rate and all that when all they do is base it on Michael Moores movie. Now that is a killer!
Michael Moore, a guy that tries to explain what is wrong in the US using his own way, which some see as wrong, others see as good. He gives it a liberal spin, just like the conservatives give theirs a right spin.
vs.
Someone responsible for the deaths of some many in that innocent government building in Oklahoma City.
Way to pick a winner people.
Michael Moore asked for an interview, he got one, the party knew he was being taped, case closed. Good night.
Guns have no purpose other than killing, so why are all you american so attached to your pressious guns...
...That import racer comment is a stupid comment to. you can't compare guns to hondas.
first off, our 2nd amendment guarantees our right to own firearms. Last thing we want is the king of England coming into our houses and pushing us around.
secondly, you are right, you cant compare guns to hondas. hondas are evil and guns are cool.
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That whole post is realy stupid. Guns have no purpose other than killing, so why are all you american so attached to your pressious guns. Your comment on the murder rate in the us is exactly why he made the movie. In fact lots of your comments seem to be agreeing with what michle moore is saying. I agree that the movie is VERY one sided,and his charston heston(sp) inverview was realy unfair. That man hates america plain and simple, or atleast everything about the way it is today. But over all it does bring up lots of good points. That import racer comment is a stupid comment to. you can't compare guns to hondas.
OK let's take these points one at a time.
Guns have no purpose other than killing.
Really? I am a member of a local gun club where I run the sporting clays course. Last time I checked no one was killed there. So there's at least ONE purpose other than killing.
On the face of it, a lot of people think exactly the way you do. They are of course, completely wrong.
Guns serve numerous purposes. Hunting, sports shooting, self defense of family and property to name a few. Of course, your socialistic tendencies in your country do not allow the people to make their own decisions and instead allow the government to decide who's allowed to own private property and who isn't.
Second, Why are you Americans all attached to your precious guns?
Freedom my friend, pure and simple freedom. Our Constitution was written by some of the most far thinking and brilliant men in history. They knew from long experience that to disarm a people is the fastest way to tyranny by a ruling body. There's an old saying regarding our Second Amendment: First among equals. Without that Second Amendment, there ARE no other freedoms. take that away and there is NO recourse for a government that decides to step on the freedoms of it's people.
The middle points are fairly valid, Moore rarely gives a fair sided interview to Conservatives, he certainly didn't with Charleton Heston. And why should he? He has an agenda, and sometimes he admits that. Generally though, you have to be sure you put him in context. He hates America, especially Corporate America and what HE thinks it stands for. Not for what it really stands for but what HE thinks it stands for.
Now as to your last point on the comparison of firearms and cars as killing instruments.
You're kidding right? Want to take a guess as to how many people are killed in this country on the roads every year? Want to compare it to so called gun deaths? Gun deaths that invariably include such stats as homocides by gang members, gun deaths committed in the acts of robbery or car jackings? The gun control lobby wants to get rid of all private firearm ownership in this country. Their big rallying cry is that too many kids are getting killed. Now the anti gun lobby would have you belive that a child is anyone under the age of 21. What nonsense. Last I checked, legal age in this country was 18. But even IF we give them benefit of the doubt and say 21, car deaths in auto accidents FAR outnumber gun deaths by ANY means in this country.
So I ask anyone who wants to get rid of guns for the reason that they(and not the people using them illegally or just plain stupidly) kill too many people, why then don't we get rid of automobiles??
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