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  • FooTemps
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    • Sep 2001
    • 6702

    #16
    Originally posted by MicrOMag


    Drifting is fun but a terrible race strategy. If you drift through an entire turn, you're losing precious time. There's a reason why formula one cars don't do it, or any other race cars...very few will drift and when they do its a short distance.
    Yeah, that's true. It's an old school strategy for older cars with less lateral g's and lower skidpad times. But, since cars aren't old and have good grip now... Drift has become pretty useless.

    Also, if drifting correctly, it won't lose time, you keep pretty much a constant speed, which should be about the same as the average speed through a corner on a grip turn.

    It's actually horrible for another reason... TIRES!

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    • Machina123
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 394

      #17
      Re: Re: blahh

      Originally posted by FooTemps


      wow, axles!?! wtf did you drive and how hard did you take the turn? lol, that's crazy... Take a video next time and try to break them! lol

      o no there will be no more axel braking! do u have any clue how much a new axel cost! u cant go pick one off the axel tree ya know.

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      • FooTemps
        HURRRR
        • Sep 2001
        • 6702

        #18
        Re: Re: Re: blahh

        Originally posted by Machina123



        o no there will be no more axel braking! do u have any clue how much a new axel cost! u cant go pick one off the axel tree ya know.
        er... junkyard?

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        • joez
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          • Feb 2003
          • 431

          #19
          just wondering how you are breaking a front axle? you would have to have a control arm let go as well to loose the axleshaft.
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          • FooTemps
            HURRRR
            • Sep 2001
            • 6702

            #20
            Originally posted by joez
            just wondering how you are breaking a front axle? you would have to have a control arm let go as well to loose the axleshaft.
            both went at the same time maybe? or maybe something was up with the axle and it broke?

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            • OfficerGoat
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              • May 2003
              • 532

              #21
              Originally posted by FooTemps

              Also, if drifting correctly, it won't lose time, you keep pretty much a constant speed, which should be about the same as the average speed through a corner on a grip turn.
              You do loose time... heres the deal, sure both cars exit the corner at about the same time, where you loose in drifting through is the fact that the car isnt hooked up and therefore not acellerating at that later stages of the corner which = lower exit speed = you get passed on the streight.

              In the middle of This Video there is a sceen of a ferari and a NSX duking it out... notice that they are about even at the exit... the nsx a bit but not too much behind.... now what happens on the streight?

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              • FooTemps
                HURRRR
                • Sep 2001
                • 6702

                #22
                Ahhh yeah, forgot about exit speed difference. I did read of a really unorthodox drift technique that addressed it. Only one guy does it though so it isn't really something that can be used often I guess.

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                • zads27
                  Student of Life
                  • May 2001
                  • 565

                  #23
                  Just analyze any tyre data.
                  Grip driving will be faster than Drifting

                  (well, except when dynamic grip is very low.. in which case you use special tires... n/m)
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                  • masterninja
                    E is for Electronic
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 180

                    #24
                    Greetings everyone! It's been over 20 years since the first Drift Session in Kapolei, Hawaii (Jan or Feb 2001) so I dug through some old photo albums about...
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                    • shartley
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                      • Mar 2001
                      • 9169

                      #25

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                      • OfficerGoat
                        My Liver! My Liver!
                        • May 2003
                        • 532

                        #26
                        On the dirt drifting is practical... watch the WRC guys. They drift exclusivly on the dirt and then when they hit the asphalt the car stays stuck to the pavement. There are some amazing drivers running that circut and they are definantly payed a profesional drivers salary.
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                        • shartley
                          paintball player
                          • Mar 2001
                          • 9169

                          #27
                          Originally posted by OfficerGoat
                          On the dirt drifting is practical... watch the WRC guys. They drift exclusivly on the dirt and then when they hit the asphalt the car stays stuck to the pavement. There are some amazing drivers running that circut and they are definantly payed a profesional drivers salary.

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                          • OfficerGoat
                            My Liver! My Liver!
                            • May 2003
                            • 532

                            #28
                            I have seen both Burns and Panizzi use the ebrake when entering tight turns. You are right though .. they arent just showboating and definantly use the ebrake far and few between.
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                            • Jack_Dubious
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                              • Apr 2002
                              • 922

                              #29
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                              • FooTemps
                                HURRRR
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 6702

                                #30
                                lol, yeah.

                                Shartley is right, rally racing drifting is caused by the inertia of the car and the minimal traction. It's the fastest way around on low traction situations. Rally drives do drift on purpose on dirt when they have heavy cars though, they use a feint drift. I consider rallying to be the only practical use of drifting, but you can still drift fast if you know what you're doing. You can beat a grip car during and before the corner, but coming out of the corner is where you'll lose time to grip racing.

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