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  • e mag
    Member Senior
    • Apr 2003
    • 726

    #1

    chess strategy

    anyone know the strategy to win chess in only 4 or 5 moves? or maybe a site that will show me how.
  • joshweinerhead
    NO TEAMer
    • Jul 2003
    • 457

    #2
    i think the move is called the napoleon .. try google.com


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    • vf-xx
      Henchmen Inc.
      • Nov 2001
      • 3311

      #3
      It's called queen's opening. You move the pawn that would open up both the queen and a bishop to move. Then you basically target the one pawn that's diagonal from the king that both could target after one move each.

      I'm not looking at a board right now so I can't be more specific.
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      • e mag
        Member Senior
        • Apr 2003
        • 726

        #4
        I think that's it but i'm still having a little trouble finding it. I found one site but it's a little unclear, and most results don't have anything useful.

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        • e mag
          Member Senior
          • Apr 2003
          • 726

          #5
          Originally posted by vf-xx
          It's called queen's opening. You move the pawn that would open up both the queen and a bishop to move. Then you basically target the one pawn that's diagonal from the king that both could target after one move each.

          I'm not looking at a board right now so I can't be more specific.
          thanks, ill see what i can find. That seems about right though.

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          • Miscue
            Super Moderator

            • Oct 2000
            • 7105

            #6
            Re: chess strategy

            Originally posted by e mag
            anyone know the strategy to win chess in only 4 or 5 moves? or maybe a site that will show me how.
            You can mate in 2... but I would not call these silly mate traps strategies, they are completely useless against someone who knows the game. Spend your time learning an opening.

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            • Miscue
              Super Moderator

              • Oct 2000
              • 7105

              #7
              Originally posted by vf-xx
              It's called queen's opening. You move the pawn that would open up both the queen and a bishop to move. Then you basically target the one pawn that's diagonal from the king that both could target after one move each.

              I'm not looking at a board right now so I can't be more specific.
              No... the Queen's Pawn Opening just means that you start off with d4. A bishop move could be played, but there are numerous lines that do not involve following up d4 with a bishop.

              The famous quick mates are "Fool's" or "Scholar's" mates... which are entirely useless.

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              • e mag
                Member Senior
                • Apr 2003
                • 726

                #8
                Originally posted by Miscue

                The famous quick mates are "Fool's" or "Scholar's" mates... which are entirely useless.
                I know they aren't useful in a real game, just wanted to know them for fun.

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                • MarkM
                  UK Cougars
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2433

                  #9
                  Re: Re: chess strategy

                  Originally posted by Miscue
                  You can mate in 2...
                  Wanna give the numbers for that, as the lowest I can tell is 4 moves, Pawn, Bishop, Queen and then Queen again..as said above usually called fools mate
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                  • viper_ssc
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 386

                    #10
                    Check Mate in 2 moves

                    To checkmate in two moves you must be black


                    1) f3 e6 2) g4 Qh4++
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                    • smee
                      It's a lie. Trust me.
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1360

                      #11
                      chess is stupid


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                      • MarkM
                        UK Cougars
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2433

                        #12
                        Re: Check Mate in 2 moves

                        Originally posted by viper_ssc
                        To checkmate in two moves you must be black


                        1) f3 e6 2) g4 Qh4++
                        OK I will have to dig a board out but still don't see that in my minds eye. Reasoning being, as a knight can be moved out without a pawn moving but unchallenged will take at least 4 moves to check, so you have to release a queen or bishop and so a pawn will have to be moved and to get in a check position from the opening move of a pawn will still be 3 moves and that will only produce check not checkmate...being black is neither here nor there.
                        Mark UK Cougars


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                        • Miscue
                          Super Moderator

                          • Oct 2000
                          • 7105

                          #13
                          Re: Re: Check Mate in 2 moves

                          Originally posted by MarkM


                          OK I will have to dig a board out but still don't see that in my minds eye. Reasoning being, as a knight can be moved out without a pawn moving but unchallenged will take at least 4 moves to check, so you have to release a queen or bishop and so a pawn will have to be moved and to get in a check position from the opening move of a pawn will still be 3 moves and that will only produce check not checkmate...being black is neither here nor there.
                          Check it out, there is most definitely a 2 move mate for black. 3 moves for white.

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                          • MarkM
                            UK Cougars
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2433

                            #14
                            Ok, well it will have to be later on today...it is after 5am for me so perhaps the brain isn't up to speed
                            Mark UK Cougars


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