Sell out of paintball.. but for what???(Eagle Talon owners)

[Dubstar112]

So I have this opportunity to get a 1995 Eagle Talon TSi AWD. Problem is its winter and I am lacking in work hours, and I only need a few hundred more dollars to be able to make a couple payments until summer if I get the car.

Is it completley wrong and immoral to sell my pride and joy just to get a car? You see, I have thought about this many times.... but I cant bring my self to think that Im selling somthing that has brought me some awesome times.. Will this fun car beat out all them fun paintball times? Anyone else here with an Eagle Talon ?

oh yeah, about 7 grand with only 60000 miles. Intercooler piping and a new blow off valve...

[FreakBaller12]

what is your setup?

you know you can always get back in to paintball in the summer.

[Mindflux]

60k is a lot of miles on a turbo. It's probably all coked up.. unless they have some sort of turbo timer set before they shut the car off.

[Dubstar112]

As much as I have seen the car run, my friend who owns it has always taken great care of it. It is in mint condition, no rust etc. turbo cooked? explain??

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[Mindflux]

Not COOKED, Coked.. it's a term used when oil sludges up in the return lines of the turbo. It happens over time to just about every turbo car EVER. You run it hard.. or run high boost and then you stop somewhere and shut your car off right away. The oil that's in the VERY HOT turbo (turbo's get somewhere over 1000 F when run hard) ends up sludging up and sticking in clumps or to the sides of the return line. It's like having your artery clogged and needing an angeoplasty.

So, unless your friend either:

A) has a turbo timer to run the car for a few minutes after he's turned off the ignition.

B) Sits in his car for a few minutes running the motor at idle to allow the turbo to cool sufficiently not to coke oil.

C) Has some super duper turbo that doesn't exist

The oil return lines are likely coked. It's not all that bad, but it's not great either.

As far as him taking good care of it, that's good.. but truth be told MOST people when they get to where they want turn the car off right away.. they don't sit and wait for the turbo to cool (obviously only applies to turbo'd cars).

I have a turbo and seldom wait when I get to my destination unless I ran the car excessively hard before I got there.

[Mateo]

In the title of the thread I thought you were selling your gun to get a BRASS Eagle Talon and was just going loco.

Also on those DSM cars as seen in their sister cars Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX or GST, they seem to go through transmissions alot, also watch out for crank walk. I forgot the website but its something like a DSM owners group and my friend learned alot from them.

[ASDadam]

One thing with the car coming up on 60k miles is the timing belt. On that year GST, Talon, etc the timinig belt is prone to failure. If you buy the car look into getting the belt replaced this summer. And they are right about the coking of the turbo, its a very nasty thing. If you do buy the car and the turbo works fine but has no timer, i'd invest the 2 or 300 into buying one. It'll prolong the life of your turbo and make your life alot happier.

[PyRo]

Wouldn't a synthetic oil help the turbo out to, as they can stand higher temperatures?

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by PyRo
Wouldn't a synthetic oil help the turbo out to, as they can stand higher temperatures?

They aren't going to stand 1000+F for long. It'll still coke, although not as quickly. Again a lot of this depends on the PO (previous owner) and how he's treated the car.

[FeuerFri]

depends on why you want the car. if your getting to mod and race, then maybe yeah, you will have a lot of fun and great memories. granted unless your at a track alot of those memories may involve the police, which may or may not be a good thing. also, car modding is expensive, and once you start it will be hard to stop, and you may end up not playing paintball for a lot longer than you think.

[PyRo]

I don't see how any oil could stand 1000 degree temperatures. I'm not arguing that there isn't a problem with the oil sludgeing up, or that synthetic fixes it. I'm just doubting that the oil ever reaches nearly that temperature, ive seen oil that was in a car that overheated, couldn't have been more than 500 degrees and the oil was screwed.
I wasn't suggesting synthetic as a fix either, rather just a way to help a little bit. Plus its better for the engine.

[Mindflux]

[Dubstar112]

Originally posted by FeuerFri
depends on why you want the car. if your getting to mod and race, then maybe yeah, you will have a lot of fun and great memories. granted unless your at a track alot of those memories may involve the police, which may or may not be a good thing. also, car modding is expensive, and once you start it will be hard to stop, and you may end up not playing paintball for a lot longer than you think.

So be it! If Im having more fun then whats the sense?

is that turbo supposed to be warm or somthing haha Jk i know its red hot.

[punkncat]

I would not suggest getting an Eagle Talon.
It is actually just an Eclipse w/ a Turbo.Its age and mileage it is sure to be a problem vehicle.
I am not suggesting you not get a car , but that one is dubious at best.Check Consumer Reports about used car quality, they have never steered me wrong.
Just because you get a car doesn't mean you won't want to play paintball again either....

[ASDadam]

Reliability reports for the Talon are actually very good. Like i said, the only major flaw behind the talon is the timing belt, which can be a large one if not taken care of before 100k miles.