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[Emily]

Enigma @ Emilys

Tuna you took the words right out of my mouth, Phill we were talking about that this morning!! Dude I want to build mine now. That rocks!!

[Rather]

Final one from me, and I'm turning in for the night.

Added the Rogue Neck (that I completely mised before now, eek). Gave the RT rail back because it keeps the frame from looking like a sore thumb. Swapped the hideously long barrel.

Enjoy. :)

[cphilip]

Ok we getting close. You can sort of tell what it might look like now can't you? OK lets do one more thing now. Lets see that last one with the Foregrip rigth on the rail without using the bracket. I realize its hard to figure out what the rail will look like up there because there is not one to see. Far as I know Nicad has not done an RT rail into that body yet. So all we got is the chopped off nose of the emag rail to see. The RT one is longer and more tapered up there. Not certain what it would look like. But as far as realy mounting it...That might can be done fairly easy and clean up the lines of this thing when the rail comes forward some more. I seen a few others do a direct mount on RTP's and I think there is plenty of meat in that area of the rail to allow the screws and counter sinking of them....


Just remember... this would not be a cheap project marker. This thing would probably cost as much as a Emag if not close to an X mag... but one cool *** Mechanical rivaling anything else out there in rate of fire and looks really!

[Rather]

Ok, about the rail. I have it looking closer to a RT rail. got rid of the logo oval, gave it the 3 tapped holes.

Now a couple Q's ot make sure I have it as accurate as I can.

Can you give me a comparison of a e-mag to a RT rail.
They about the same length?
Which area where you reffering to when u said it was mreo tappered?


Btw this is coming along very nicely. Can't wait to see one actually done to see how close/far I was on its apperances.

[cphilip]

Well that the issue. I need to find a picture of the two side by side or something. Let me keep looking here....

They are about the same in every way but the nose of them if I am not mistaken.... And no indent for the Jewel I think. Anyone know where a good picture of the RT Pro rail is? Side of it mainly.

On edit. I might be wrong. They may not be "that" different shape at the front end as I am just trying to go from memory here... Just maybe the holes for the bracket and no dimple for the jewel like the emag has. Problem is both of my markers, the RTP and the X mag are out at the field right now so I cannot look at them and confirm exactly but I can only find these two pictures

Emags:


RT Pro:

[cphilip]

One is facing one way and one the other but sans the holes they are almost identical except that recess for the jewel.

So lets use the original one showing the flat front of the emags rail. For now. There is a picture of Nicads somewhere that he shows that rail done with the Karta body too. Just its an emag rail is all. And I have seen several pictures where they ditched the bracket and mounted the grip right to the rail. I think Rogue has some with his Foregrip like that showing a RTP with direct mount to the RTP rail.

[CoolHand]

As far as I can tell, the EMag and RTPro rails are exactly the same, size shape, etc., except for the logo oval on the emag is replaced by the six tapped holes on the RTP.

I had one of each here for almost a month, and those two things were the only cosmetic differences I noticed.

I can machine the rail (even an EMag rail), to accept the foregrip without that clunky SS adapter plate, so if you want that done, just drop me a line.

That thing is gonna look entirely too cool.

You will need people to go ahead of you to warn others about the eminent coolness that is approaching, so you don't have people passing out from shock.

Later

[Rather]

They look almsot identicle except for the jewel recess/3 tapped front holes. But I also kinda notticed that at the top front of the RT there is a slight angle to it, whre as the emag one is still flsuh. Is that just my eyes or anyone see that too?

IF it is there, would all that mean is that the curves around the barrel would be a little shorter so there isnt a small gap BW the RT rail and Karta?

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Rather
...But I also kinda noticed that at the top front of the RT there is a slight angle to it, whre as the emag one is still flsuh. Is that just my eyes or anyone see that too?

If it is there, would all that mean is that the curves around the barrel would be a little shorter so there isnt a small gap BW the RT rail and Karta?

I think maybe your right there Rather... I gotta wait till my stuff gets back from the field to comfirm that though. And it is very small and slight if its there.

And thanks Ryan for that input. And I might indeed need you to do that. I gonna take the one on my current RTP off tonight and confirm all that. But you already have confirmed that pretty much. And I might send it on to you before we send it on to Nicad for the carving for the body combo. I will confirm the little taper of facet as well. I seem to remember something like that being there. And other than the recess for the jewel and the holes and taps for the bracket thats pretty darn much the same.

[Fixion]

People, people, adjust the hue, don't color over it!

Here's my contribution.

[Rather]

Fix- If your reffering to what all I have done. Its nothing nothing but playing with the hue. May have gone a bit dark, granted, but I was trying to keep away from the pewtery shine.

Anyways, here is the latest, didn't touch the curves around the barrel as to I do not know how much a difference (if any) there would be.

[Fixion]

Originally posted by Rather
Fix- If your reffering to what all I have done. Its nothing nothing but playing with the hue. May have gone a bit dark, granted, but I was trying to keep away from the pewtery shine.

Anyways, here is the latest, didn't touch the curves around the barrel as to I do not know how much a difference (if any) there would be.

Nope, I wasn't refering to you. I can tell that you messed with the hue (from the feed neck). It was just a general statement.

[cphilip]

So whats the general feeling here on these points....

Bracket or no Bracket? I leaning towords no bracket and directly attached to the Rail.

What about the grip color? Black or should we change that? Frame is set at Clear anno Silver. Body color not set yet can be anything really that would go with the Silver but I lean towords Black for matching barrels I already have here

Also how about that feed neck? Should be change that to Silver on a black body? or keep it Black. Silver might set it off up there with the Silver grip frame.

[member#10,261]

no bracket
black grips
black feedneck

I would do this for the ultomat mech mag...
-karta body viagra blue
-karta rail (tapped for a direct grip attachment) viagra blue
-x valve (with ult) black (duh)
-logic vert frame black
-custom blue grips
-rogueneck viagra blue
-thoes magnetic detents viagra blue (I think you can custom anno them?)
-bike grip or roguegrip
-anything else on the gun or tank...black

sorry but thoes pics inspired me

[arowmic]

Personally I'd drop that nasty looking drop bracket!

Here is a picture of the Karta on a milled RT rail. The front had to be cut on an angle to match the rail.


Comparison picture of the E-Mag rail and the RT Rail.