Are the poor in America really not that poor?

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  • 1stdeadeye
    Still around????
    • Jun 2002
    • 8501

    #1

    Are the poor in America really not that poor?

    Hear is an article that might make you think twice about true poverty.

    Story about American vs. European poverty
  • 1stdeadeye
    Still around????
    • Jun 2002
    • 8501

    #2
    Another good piece to read!

    Class warfare!

    Realize that the top 5% of wage earners in America pay MORE THEN 50% OF ALL TAXES!!!!!

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    • shartley
      paintball player
      • Mar 2001
      • 9169

      #3

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      • shartley
        paintball player
        • Mar 2001
        • 9169

        #4
        Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
        Another good piece to read!

        Class warfare!

        Realize that the top 5% of wage earners in America pay MORE THEN 50% OF ALL TAXES!!!!!
        Good read.

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        • impostal22
          disgruntled...
          • Apr 2003
          • 1623

          #5
          there's more to take into account than just material wealth, as the article briefly mentioned. sure, some people have houses and a car; the house is necessary to keep them alive, and the car is necessary to keep their job. i wouldn't really say the people with homes and cars are the people we should *really* worry about though.

          it's the people who sleep on park benches in the winter with nothing but newspapers to trap the body heat in them.

          but really, when people think of the truly impoverished of the country, it ain't people who have a house to keep them sheltered. so, from my perspective, what i view (and most people would agree) are destitute persons are really that poor.


          edit- i agree completely with what shartley said. how can we be such a superpower if we have one of the worst rates of homelessness and child starvation?

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          • impostal22
            disgruntled...
            • Apr 2003
            • 1623

            #6
            Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
            Another good piece to read!

            Class warfare!

            Realize that the top 5% of wage earners in America pay MORE THEN 50% OF ALL TAXES!!!!!
            eh..what you're forgetting is that there's a drop off point...whether you make $150k (i think that's the dropoff point now, although it may have been raised or lowered, i forget) or $150billion, you still pay the same percentage of taxes.

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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #7
              Originally posted by impostal22


              eh..what you're forgetting is that there's a drop off point...whether you make $150k (i think that's the dropoff point now, although it may have been raised or lowered, i forget) or $150billion, you still pay the same percentage of taxes.
              Percentages might be the same, but the amounts paid are vastly different are they not?

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              • impostal22
                disgruntled...
                • Apr 2003
                • 1623

                #8
                Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


                Percentages might be the same, but the amounts paid are vastly different are they not?
                yes, but why are the incomes from $0/year to $150,000/year taxed in separate brackets yet from $150,001/year to $1billion+ /year are taxed in the same bracket? not to mention the top 1% of the population possesses over 50% of the total population's wealth.

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                • 1stdeadeye
                  Still around????
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 8501

                  #9
                  Originally posted by impostal22


                  yes, but why are the incomes from $0/year to $150,000/year taxed in separate brackets yet from $151,000/year to $1billion+ /year are taxed in the same bracket? not to mention the top 1% of the population possesses over 50% of the total population's wealth.
                  So what do you want! Lower incomes are taxed at lower percentages. For millionaires, they are already paying a over a third of their income to Uncle Same, what do you want 1/2?

                  If so, move to England!

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                  • impostal22
                    disgruntled...
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 1623

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


                    So what do you want! Lower incomes are taxed at lower percentages. For millionaires, they are already paying a over a third of their income to Uncle Same, what do you want 1/2?

                    If so, move to England!
                    i just find it disturbing that someone who makes $152,000 a year is paying the same % of taxes as someone who makes $1.52million.

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                    • f3rr3+
                      Six inches of furry fury
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 752

                      #11
                      the taxation of people is absolutly rediculous... 1/3 of your money goes to uncle sam is bs... we give me money to gov. and we have little say in how its run.. moreso than other countrys but for 1/3 of your income i think you should have a hell of alot more say
                      Last week i thought i was indecisive, but now im not sure anymore...

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                      • 1stdeadeye
                        Still around????
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 8501

                        #12
                        Originally posted by impostal22


                        i just find it disturbing that someone who makes $152,000 a year is paying the same % of taxes as someone who makes $1.52million.
                        Why?

                        The person making 150K is paying 50k in taxes. The one making 1.5m is paying 500k in taxes! How does that not seem right? They both are paying more then their fair share!

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                        • Rooster
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2000
                          • 1069

                          #13
                          "not to mention the top 1% of the population possesses over 50% of the total population's wealth."

                          Exactly as it should be. You deserve nothing of their wealth, nor does anyone else.

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                          • Restola
                            Certificated Cloud Buster
                            • May 2001
                            • 2230

                            #14
                            Originally posted by impostal22
                            i just find it disturbing that someone who makes $152,000 a year is paying the same % of taxes as someone who makes $1.52million.
                            I find it disturbing that someone making $15,200 a year is paying different taxes than someone making $152,000/year.

                            Everyone should be paying the same percentage. Zero. Or close to it.

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                            • Kevmaster
                              Owners Group Div: Director
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 5475

                              #15
                              although, you DO have to take into account the source for this survey.....

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