death penalty- whats your stance on it?

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  • WicKeD_WaYz
    Ohio State Football #91
    • Apr 2002
    • 1817

    #1

    death penalty- whats your stance on it?

    This is for a paper I have to right at school. I have to make a video too with a bunch of interviews and what not. I gotta tell what people think about it and kind of relate it to where they live and there lifestyle. So I am going to south central LA and then on to like Orange County suburbs for my interviews. And then on down to san diego maybe. But I still need help writing my paper.

    So here goes, what do you think about the death penalty? good or bad? how often should it be used? etc. also please add what state your in if its not under your title.

    thanks

    ryan
  • Miscue
    Super Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 7105

    #2
    This is not coming from a moral perspective, but I think there are more effective ways of dealing with criminals.

    I think we should allow excommunication, and take away U.S. citizenship of really bad criminals. Then, you ship them to some country who agrees to imprison them... with rules on how prisoners are treated that differ from ours.

    Send them some place that's 50 below 0 or something, and mine coal. This nation gets paid more for keeping them alive.

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    • PyRo
      President Bioloaf inc.
      • Dec 2000
      • 10186

      #3
      Ive got some great ideas on how to torture them to death

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      • Dryden
        Team Nemesis

        • Jun 2003
        • 931

        #4
        If push comes to shove, I have to say I oppose the death penalty. I don't have a problem with the concept that a criminal could be so evil, so unremorseful, and so unable to be 'rehabilitated' that ending their life would benefit society, rather that the number of convicts sentenced to death is so low that it's questionable whether or not it's [a] cost effective [b] a deterent and most importantly [c] carried out against those who are most deserving of such punishment.

        As far as I can determine with publicly available figures, a grand total of 65 people were executed in 2003, 64 by lethal injection, 1 by electrocution. If 1 such person was in fact innocent, is it really worth it? I can accept the argument for the cost of housing an inmate ... but can we really not afford 65 annually, to ensure that one wrongly convicted individual isn't executed before all avenues of clemency are exhausted?

        Another issue that I have with death sentencing is the lack of uniformity in the sentence from one state to another. Is it first-degree murder? Aggravated murder with x contributing factors? Kidnapping with bodily injury (as is the case in Georgia)? Is sentencing fair based on race, sex, or mental acumen?

        The Dennis Miller in me wants to say "hang 'em all." But in the end, is it really worth it? Isn't life without parole in fact more punishment?

        Too many people who have been wrongly convicted are waiting on death row right now. The West Memphis Three are just one example.
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        • Rooster
          Registered User
          • Oct 2000
          • 1069

          #5
          "Isn't life without parole in fact more punishment? "

          If it was, wouldn't every death row inmate be running to give up their appeals?

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          • RRfireblade

            • Jun 2002
            • 5103

            #6
            For it.

            In fact,in cases where the guilt of the criminal is not in question,it should be enacted as timely as is possible.

            I agree that it's not a big deterent to crime but neither is prison.The typical criminal isn't concerned about punishment simply because they don't think they'll get caught.And the rest think that if they DO get caught,they'll easily get off.

            If you cleared out all the "lifers" and all the guilty with out question,there would then be room for realistic terms for the those who "get off" due to over crouding and lack of cell space,not to mention saving much of the cost burden to the tax payers.

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            • devildog
              I hate my user name
              • Oct 2002
              • 1530

              #7
              Originally posted by Miscue
              I think we should allow excommunication, and take away U.S. citizenship of really bad criminals. Then, you ship them to some country who agrees to imprison them... with rules on how prisoners are treated that differ from ours.
              i spent a week eating raw fishheads and rice in a japanese prison, god was i happy to get out of there
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              • PyRo
                President Bioloaf inc.
                • Dec 2000
                • 10186

                #8
                So because someone decided he wanted to go rape and murder someone taxpayers should spend thousands of dollars a year on a place for that person to live?

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                • ShooterJM
                  Shooter Wang - Ice Ninja
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 3651

                  #9
                  Very for it. Kill em back.

                  I like miscue's idea for lifers and long sentences though.

                  And I think we should cane people for minor crimes. Nothing like a good caning to solve some issues.
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                  • lamby
                    A.K.A Spanker
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 394

                    #10
                    I am all for not just executions, but PUBLIC executions.

                    Let other learn from their mistakes.

                    I am from SE Wisconsin for your survey

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                    • Restola
                      Certificated Cloud Buster
                      • May 2001
                      • 2230

                      #11
                      I am very pro-death penelty.

                      I am also for making sure they are guilty. I don't have a problem with appeals. I have a problem with 2 decades of appeals.

                      I want a time limit of some sort. 6 months, 5 years, something. Otherwise it would probably be better just to get rid of it all and let them enjoy their cable TVs and workout rooms.

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                      • ASDadam
                        Registered User
                        • May 2003
                        • 587

                        #12
                        I agree with Restola. I'm very pro-death penalty but also agree we should put a limit on appeals to say..3 or so. But also believe that the death penalty should be issued only when assured with DNA evidence and total confidence that they did the crime. From NC.

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                        • Ironmag
                          Support the troops
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 411

                          #13
                          I am obviously for it (I'm from Texas). I believe this because you destroyed the life of someone and those around them and you deserve nothing less. If we ever go to the life in prison route, I think they should do manual labor in a prison in the remotest region of Alaska so they could suffer every day, reflecting on what they did.

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                          • 71 LS6
                            Nick Tahou's guru
                            • May 2002
                            • 230

                            #14
                            Strongly in favor. Most points have already been made, not much more to say here. From NY
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                            • CaptaiN_JacK
                              will get you high tonight
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 947

                              #15
                              even though im democrat, im still VERY much for the death penalty. did you know it costs around $16,000 a YEAR to keep a prisoner in prison? and did you know that it costs about $4,000 per student per year in public schools?

                              think about this: would you rather spend 50 years in a prison without a chance of parole? or even a life sentence? or would you rather be put out of your misery? if i were stupid enough to get a life sentence, id rather be killed. even if i got out of prison in 15 years, it would still mean i wouldnt have any more friends (most likely), and that i wouldnt be able to get a good job. the cycle would most liekely continue, and id end up in prison again.

                              why should we have pity for the scum of society? they obviously dont care about us, or ethics, and shouldnt be given a second chance.

                              we spend 16 BILLION dollars a year on stupid people. if i had the power, i would give the death penalty to anybody who had more than a 5 year sentence.

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