Try this in my yard and get shot!!!!!

[Ultimator]

Native Americans had bad immigration laws.

I think I saw that on a bumper sticker once.

-asdf

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Ultimator
Native Americans had bad immigration laws.

I think I saw that on a bumper sticker once.

-asdf

LOL!!!

See we need to learn from them, so the illegals don't put us citizens on reservations. It would take us 150 years to figure out we can get even by opening casinos and taking money from the illegals!!

[Brak]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife
Diversity is perversity.

and you must love racism

[PyRo]

Lets see, just about all my family on my mothers side came from England way back in the day, one of them even has there name on the declaration of independence, so half my family came over speaking perfect english .
On my fathers side, most people didn't come over speaking english, but he has told me so many stories about differant relatives its hard to keep them all straight, a German boat captain in there somewhere, a Hessian, while at the same time someone was a general on the american side, a slave, as well as some people from Whales (I think thats how its spelled), Finaland, and other places. Basically I have no idea what to make of my heritage on my fathers side
Guess what though, everyone came here legally. Well I guess the German mercinary may be debateable.

And yup, i'm racist, I dislike illigle immigrants. I'm fine with the legal ones though.

[TeamNausea]

Deadeye I love you btw. Your argument uses the correct facts where as mine are just asking if the rifle hunting thing took paypal..

[ThisIsTheLongestUserName.]

Some American History X quotes I think apply.

"DEREK VINYARD:Millions of white Europeans came to this country and flourished within a generation! A generation! So what the f*^% is wrong with these people?! "

"DEREK VINYARD: Alright listen up! We need to open our eyes. There is over two millions illegal immigrants bedding down in the state tonight. The state spent three billions dollars last year on services for those people who had no right to be here in the first place. Three billions dollars. 400 millions dollars just to lock up a bunch of illegal immigrant criminals who only got in this country because the f@$%ing INS decided it's not worth the effort to scream for convicted felons."

"DEREK VINYARD:On the Statue of Liberty it says: "Give me your tired, your hungry, your poor." Well, it's Americans who are tired and hungry and poor. And I say, until you take care of that, close the f*^*ing book. 'Cause we're losing. We're losing our rights to pursue our destiny. We're losing our freedom. So that a bunch of f$#@ing foreigners can come in here and exploit our country. And this isn't something that's going on far away. This isn't something that's happening places we can't do anything about it. It's happening right here, right in our neighborhood, right in that building behind you."

Last one is my favorite.

[TeamNausea]

nice...

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Brak


and you must love racism

Yeah about as much as I love 16 year old punk liberals who think they're smart.


Get a clue, child.

[PyRo]

I guess i'm not insulted since i'm 18

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by PyRo
I guess i'm not insulted since i'm 18

Someone posts some asinine horsecrap, I'll call it like it is.

That's why AO loves me.

[PyRo]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife




Someone posts some asinine horsecrap, I'll call it like it is.

That's why AO loves me.

Not as much as me

[ubooze]

I don't really care much for this illegal immigration stuff and I am really at middle ground.

BUT, being told/forced to accept American society and language? Why? Lets set-up a scenario:

Your 35 years old, and have a job working in the fields/construction. You have 2-5 kids that need to be schooled and fed. And lets say that you just arrived in the states and are legally here. So you have taxes, your wife, kids, and a job to worry about. And lets not forget what 10 hours or more of physical labor can do to you. When and how are you going to afford the time and money to learn English. And why? As long as you have a basic grasp, its all you need. You can't just go up to some guy and say "Hey you, since your from such and such country, and you don't know much English, go spend some many hours studying." It just doesn't work that well.

And socially? Sorry to break it to you, but our country doesn't exactly have the best ideals. Since we a humans, not just as Americans, believe in freedom and human rights, why should we force or condemn others that they live in a so and so community and speak what not language.

Intergration? I'm sorry its not going to happen now or anytime soon. Asians will hang out with asians, Muslims with Muslims, and Mexicans with Mexicans. Thats a thing that cannot be easily destroyed. And since their primary language isn't English, of course their going to speak and live in a community based around their native country.

You don't have to speak English or accept American society to be a "good" American. As long as their here legally, or add to the community(that may be legally or illegally), then I don't see why we should impose these ideals on them.

I see more foreigners waving American flags than whites Americans. These people are THANKFUL for the chance to live and work here.

And believe me, immigration is a tough cookie to pass. My cousins have been trying for 5+ years for a visa to visit the states. To VISIT the states. Many of my aunt's and uncle's were illegal immigrants. Some of them have gained a bit of English, but many of them can't speak even after taking lessons. Believe you me, its not easy for them to learn.

P.S.: No, I have not read anything anyone else wrote. Its midnight and I'm sleepy. Back-up stores of caffeine are keeping me up.

[MagMan5446]

That was the moral of American History X


ubooze has a pretty good scenario.


Are they taking your jobs? Are they protesting your door? Will they ever? No. so **** it.

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by ubooze

. As long as their here legally, or add to the community(that may be legally or illegally), then I don't see why we should impose these ideals on them.

Yeh... I don't know why we should expect those coming to this country to obey our laws...

[TigerMan]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
So they don't pay taxes and take advantage of our education system. Guess what I don't pay tons of money in property taxes for my school system to spend my money on people who are drains on our society!

My parents paid for my college degree, not the government. Why should I pay for some illegal to get a degree!

You are missing the point. These people are here illegally. They have no right to be in the USA. They are leeching off of our society. Every illegal in school is that much money not spent on a citizen or that much more in taxes that need to be raised to educate them. We spend over $8k per kid in our district. I'll be damned if a penny of it goes to an illegal.

Tell me why they are entitled to stay here. Tell me why they deserve to take from our society without paying into it. Tell me why they should be allowed to stay and other illegals booted out.

If it is taxes your worried about, why not complain about the hundreds of thousands we spend on prisoners? We pay for them to have 3 meals a day, a cozy space, and other things, and it costs very much for that all. Why not complain to overweight people? Their health conditions is giving many higher prices for health insurance and driving up the price of many medical expenses.

The kids of illegals should receive education because in all reality it most likely wasn't there choice to leave in the first place. And college degree? Probably 1 in 100 illegal immigrants children is able to even get a community college degree because wherever they live, even for in state schools, they have to pay out of state tuition. It's basically high school for them and that's it.