Bodies of Americans dragged through the streets of Iraq!!!

[CaptaiN_JacK]

i told everybody that a couple people would nit-pick at the details of my comparison to avoid the full meaning of it...its bull crap if you say that you would let another country that you DIDNT like came into the us and then leave a standing army there to help keep the peace. in the US, pride and dignity is a lot more important than practicality.

i hate it how none of you actually stop and think about what is going on, but you believe what the media and bush is telling you.

[nippinout]

The MOAB is awesome, but I think having around the clock Spectre gunships flying around would do the trick.

CaptaiN_Jack, your comparison is poop.

[nippinout]

Originally posted by Ov3rmind

Even if it meant the death of everyone else in your family and the loss of your home? Think about that one hard for a few minutes.

Or what if we left Iraq alone in hopes of another 10 years of UN resolutions and Saddam continues his raping and filling of mass graves.

Anyways, the analogy is still poop.

[Butterfingers]

We do think , well at least I think about what is going on...

Its horrible yes...

The diffrence is I don't agree with your logic...

I would be pissed if my family died in the action who wouldent...

I also know the cost of freedom isn't free people are going to die.

Conversely how would you feel if your leader persecuted and GASSED your family.

How would you feel if you didnt have a future to look forward to because your leader just happened to hate your type of people.

How would you feel if your sister or your mom could be pulled off the streets and brutally RAPED at the will of some cronies.

How would you feel if your father and brothers were KILLED for saying that you disliked your fearless leader.

The list goes on...

I have reasons for thinking the way that I do and I think we have all made a better point of it that you have...

We are all not as ignorant as you make us out to me so get off your high horse It irritates me when you suggest our attitudes are products of mass media.

Also search gallup and iraqis in this forum... you will be surprised how many actually "hate" us. You will find a gallup poll link...

Yep 70 percent of Iraqis WANT US TO STAY... Its a damn shame that we have more support there than we do here.

Welcome to reality...

[nippinout]

Butterfingers, don't you love how some people make Bush out to be some totally evil guy, but defend Saddam.

[Butterfingers]

Yeah I dont get it...

Liberals compare things to events that can never conceivably happen...

I like to compare things to reality...

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Automag88
How come things like this only get reported when its Americans that get killed by Iraqis? What about the things that are similar that the American troops do to the civilians in Iraq?

We do NOT intentionally target civilians. In fact we tend to put our OWN PEOPLE at greater risk to avoid doing so.

[PyRo]

They had to worry about realatives disapearing before we were there too. Probably more-so than they do now.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by CaptaiN_JacK
i told everybody that a couple people would nit-pick at the details of my comparison to avoid the full meaning of it...

Your comparison is good....



FOR ME TO POOP ON.

[Lohman446]

I for one am sick of trying to win the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi people. History tells me this is not possible, the region is known for long term resistance. The crusades for instance, the Israeli/Palestine conflict, the overthrow of the British government in modern day Iraq.

It is simply not going to happen, its time to admit that and base our military strategy on that fact. Either treat this as a war where collateral damage is acceptable (yeh, I know there has been some, but not compared to other major military exercises) or get out. Let's not fight a loosing battle.

[Rooster]

It was nice of the moron patrol to show up. My day is incomplete without smacking some liberal scum.

"Iraqi Civilians killed in Iraq: Max-10649 Min-8799"

Iraqis killed by Sadam: 1,000,000 give or take. The Iraqis don't like the US becuase we are superior. We bent their stupid little military over and whipped them like it didn't even exist. That is a direct shot at Muslim pride. Their God didn't save them. The Arabs were once the height of civilization after the fall of the great western empires, but times change. They just havn't realized just how backwards they are yet.

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by CaptaiN_JacK
i hate it how none of you actually stop and think about what is going on, but you believe what the media and bush is telling you.

I hate it how there didnt' seem to be an effort to try forming a sentient logical argument or an accurate analogy.

Here's another 'good' analogy: If I throw an ice cube at a speedboat it's a perfect titanic re-enactment.

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by Lohman446
I for one am sick of trying to win the "hearts and minds" of the Iraqi people. History tells me this is not possible, the region is known for long term resistance. The crusades for instance, the Israeli/Palestine conflict, the overthrow of the British government in modern day Iraq.

It is simply not going to happen, its time to admit that and base our military strategy on that fact. Either treat this as a war where collateral damage is acceptable (yeh, I know there has been some, but not compared to other major military exercises) or get out. Let's not fight a loosing battle.

The diffrence is that historically, in the examples that you give, they were and ARE LONG TERM occupying powers... In this case in less than 100 days Iraq will have thier soverengnty...

We liberated Kuwait we didnt OCCUPY Kuwait... Kuwait was one of our and still continues to be one of our strongest allies...

We liberated Afganastan... we did not occupy Afganistan like the Soviets did. Afganistan has thier own sovereign government now. With the exception of a few Al-Quida elements Afganastan is generally freindly to the US.

Also dosent anybody read the surveys... Most of the Iraqi people DONT SUPPORT THE INSURGENCY...

There are only a small bunch of very motivated people that "just dont seem to get it"

There would be no conflict if Israel Gave the land back to the Palestineans...

Remember don't throw an ice cube at a speedboat

[RoadDawg]

Does the political side really matter in this thread? NO. Reason being OUR American civilians were killed and drug through the streets. Who cares what Bush/Saddam did. The fact is people were killed and drug through the streets. ? should be... What are we gonna do about it? Pick our nose and sit there or go in there and help remove the bruises. My thought on the political side is Bush declared the war over before the eggs had hatched. If we turn it over in 100 or less days and the bad spots haven't been taken care of.. then we would have done what we did to the Kurds in the first gulf war. Abandon those we said we'd help. Just my opinion on the matter.

[Butterfingers]

Exactly... But some of the liberals dont seem to get it they are so strung out on attacking Bush that they missed the entire picture.