64 bit amd?

[Rumble]

well give it about 6 months, prosessor speeds are doubled every half year or so. In 6 months it should be around 7GHz, based on trends.

[Python14]

lol, murphys law is that if something can go wrong, it will(particularly at the most inoppritune moment).

[Buff]

well give it about 6 months, prosessor speeds are doubled every half year or so. In 6 months it should be around 7GHz, based on trends. (Murpheys law i think)

wrong
its doubled about every two years, and the law isn't accurate anymore. Its slooowing down. Think of it this way. I had an Athlon running at 1.4ghz 2years a go. its xtremely hard to get any Athlon to run at 2x1.4 or 2.8ghz right now. maybe if/when AMD releases .09 nano AXP will that be easy, but not now. * law is slowing down. big time. In 6 months we might have 2.6ghz A64's. Either way, the current gen is xtremely powerful.

[Rumble]

damn! your rite, wow thats embarassing, lol thank god for that button i call "mr.edit"

[Rumble]

damn, were all posting everything at once, and its making everything all confuzzled lol. anyway, i think ive pretty much proven i know nothing, so ignore my posts and listen to Buff

[trains are bad]

Does the playstation2 really have a 128bit bus?

[Buff]

Does the playstation2 really have a 128bit bus?

it might, who cares?
bus is different then actuall design. Athlons have a 64bit ram bus, A64's have 2x64bit integrated(fast).
yaddyaadda

[Miscue]

Originally posted by kauai_paintball
ah, crap i haven got my PCGAMER magazine in a month, im way behind (lol)so, anyways, ill try to clear up some confusion:

1. *Previously all computers used a 32 bit processors

2. *bits are the BUS size, or the amount of information that it can process at a time.

3. *64 bit can process information 2x as fast as 32 it procesors.

4. * The faster and more information a processor can process, the faster and more intense and sharp the graphics can be alowed to go.

5. * if you play a game and the graphics are choppy, either your processor cant process as fast as it needs to and the game is skipping, or your 3D graphics card (if ou have one) isnt up to the task.

hope that clears up some Confusion

1. Urm, not all.
2. ???
3. Not true, common misconception. Another misconception is that a 2GHz CPU is twice as fast as a 1GHz CPU with identical architecture - impossible.
4. Sure.
5. Other factors as well.

[Butterfingers]

Im confused

My I386 is the fastest computer EVAR!

Behind the WAS TurboRev!! everybody knows that is the fastest computer EVAR

[Miscue]

What's kinda funny is, 64-bit code can be slower than 32-bit code... if everything else is the same. The biggest advantage to 64-bit machines is 64-bit memory addressing, so you can have over 4GBs of memory.

[Buff]

What's kinda funny is, 64-bit code can be slower than 32-bit code... if everything else is the same. The biggest advantage to 64-bit machines is 64-bit memory addressing, so you can have over 4GBs of memory.

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its possible, but generaly its faster. It also depends on who codes it:P A64's get around 20% faster on WinXP-64, so even though the Fx-53is the fastest in 32bit processing, its even faster in 64bit.

Also, bits can stand for other things. The system bus, also called the Front Side Bus(FSB) is measured in mhz and bit length. A 400mhz, 128bit FSB is faster then a 600mhz 64bit bus. Most cpu's have a 64bit bus, or 2x64. My NF7 has 2x64bit for the ram, but the CPU has only 1x64, so the cpu bus width is the bottleneck. So increasing the mhz of the FSB will help..... Same thing with video cards, most low end cards have a 128bit bus, high end ones have 256bit. My 256bit card with ram running at 300mhz has about 19Gb/s bandwidth. Mr friends 9600pro has 330mhz, but only 128bit, so he has about 10Gb/s.

5. * if you play a game and the graphics are choppy, either your processor cant process as fast as it needs to and the game is skipping, or your 3D graphics card (if ou have one) isnt up to the task.

What about a 3.0Ghz celeron w/ a 9800XT? the bus is to slow, no cache, etc. Or the mobo, agp, VGA drivers are bad, etc. or not enough ram for the game to run in, so windows has to use a swapdisk, ram is to slow, etc etc etc.

why's it so much better than 32?

I dont think anyone answered it.....
remember the days of the 486? then the pentium came out, and it was so much faster. the 486 was 16bit core, the P55 was 32bit. 32bit systems can only address 4gb of ram, the A64 can address either 32 or 64gb, if I remember. There are other things, such as having 64bit is sorta like having sse, sse2, it makes it faster if done right. again, about 20% on WInXP-64.

[Restola]

I own a AMD64 3200+, and its about equivilent to a p4 3.2 currently.

Never ran a 64bit OS on it. The idea of using a beta windows makes me sick. The #1 game I play is exclusive to windows so I don't run linux.

Not really much reason to pick it right now, except its a bit cheaper than the equiv p4, and I like AMD.

[Buff]

Not really much reason to pick it right now, except its a bit cheaper than the equiv p4, and I like AMD.

$270 vs whatever the P43.2EE costs... its a lot cheaper. And faster

[Latchkey]

What about the speeds of this computer, how do they stack up? I know its kind of off topic, but some of you guys really seem to know what your talking about.

this computer or even the ones on the site in general...

Check this site out...

[Bluestrike_2]

mmmm.

That sites parent company is Lexicon.

Amazing quality in the Home Theater Market. Too bad I could never afford one of their pre/pros(or their amps for that matter)

Another thing, don't think a computer is faster JUST because of processor speeds. Macs, Intel, and AMD all process differently. Also, there are many other factors involved. I hope another person with more knowledge about this can help you.