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  • impostal22
    disgruntled...
    • Apr 2003
    • 1623

    #16
    thanks for all the help guys...

    i'll try and reply to everyone...

    jefbarn/miscue- setting the memory timing? i've never had to do that before, so what should i set it to? and what will happen if the timing i set it to isn't good either?

    curly- i installed the latest nvidia last night and it rebooted afterwards lol

    fixion- thanks, i just turned off auto restart...although wouldn't there have been some sort of error report after rebooting, telling me what happened?


    so on my compy back at college, which has 400FSB...if i got three DIMMs of pc3200, each would only run at (400/3=)133? not that i plan on getting another DIMM, i am just curious.

    so the errors with explorer, iexplorer, and rebooting can all be attributed to memory timing being a little off?

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    • impostal22
      disgruntled...
      • Apr 2003
      • 1623

      #17
      GRRRR..internet explorer JUST had another error....i managed to get this from it:

      AppName: iexplore.exe AppVer: 6.0.2800.1106 ModName: mshtml.dll
      ModVer: 6.0.2800.1400 Offset: 0004e868

      (that is the only stuff i could highlight and copy)...

      could it be because i'm running all-in-one secretmaker? i've heard good things about it, and think that the explorer crashing thing happened before installing it as well....but i'm not sure about that.

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      • Thordic
        AFTICA
        • May 2001
        • 5986

        #18
        Weird. I reccomend CyberPower to everyone, and have never seen any problems with their PCs. Mine runs amazingly well.

        I'm betting it was something that happened with your install. Good luck I have no real advice, I just thought I'd support CyberPower, as they kick butt

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        • Buff
          Registered User
          • Apr 2002
          • 414

          #19
          try switching it to slower settings like 3-3-3-8 or something like that
          NO! Dont do it. Thye Nforce 2 chipset hates cas timings of 3. set it to manuel at 2.5-3-3-11
          Also, download the newest drivers for the mobo and video card.
          There is something I am forgetting that I know should fix it....
          I'll post when I remember.

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          • athomas
            Of course it works-its AGD
            • Jan 2002
            • 8039

            #20
            Have you tried updating the bios. There are some stability issues with memory in the old bios. Try version 1009.

            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • impostal22
              disgruntled...
              • Apr 2003
              • 1623

              #21
              thordic- my compy at college is a CP as well...so is my girlfriend's and bestfriend's. this is the first real problem i've encountered w/ a CP compy. what's weird is i've left this compy on for about 5 hours straight now, and it hasn't rebooted itself.

              can anyone confirm what buff said about the memory timing? what would happen if the numbers i put in weren't good?

              athomas- how does one go about updating bios? just download and install? i doubt it...lol. and i would think that CP installed the latest BIOS...

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              • Rumble
                Registered User
                • May 2003
                • 284

                #22
                well actually, thats pretty much how I did my BIOS, i just ran it, it said some things about "Could severly damage system if somthing bad happens blah blah" I hit ok, comp restarts and voila i have a updated BIOS.

                oh and dont let tat "Could damage ur comp" scare you, its just saying like if the power goes out halfway through, or if you shut itdown or somthing

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                • impostal22
                  disgruntled...
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1623

                  #23
                  can someone confirm this before i do it? PLEASE?

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                  • Bluestrike_2
                    Archer
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 481

                    #24
                    First off, IE is, like ALL Micro$oft products, ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. Many members here have used Mozilla Firebird/FireFox. Great reviews. Do a search for FIRBIRD. Should turn up a few good threads. http://www.mozilla.org << Free Download.

                    Second, Shoulda bought a Mac Ok, in all seriousness, if you are worried about doing anything, send it back to CP. They will fix it.

                    Oh geez, my mind thinks of Cedar Point when I type CP for Cyber Power. Oh how I miss the Millenium Force, Magnum XL-200, and Top Thrill Dragster.
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                    • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
                      Another One Bites The Dust
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2246

                      #25
                      Are you running a cable modem and if so is it a webstar. Because I had the same problem with mine. And if you do try hooking the modem up to ethernet rather than USB
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                      • jefbarn
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 13

                        #26
                        If the machine decides to break durring the 30 seconds it takes to flash the bios, that could kill it. Now, you've said the machine has run fine for several hours, so the chances are slim.... Just letting you know...I've seen thousand dollar laptops become paperwieghts because of a bad bios flash.

                        With that said, I'd recomend flashing the bios, and if it goes poof, it _should_ still be covered by warrantee.

                        Also, you won't break anything by fiddling with memory timings. Worse that could happen is that the machine won't boot, in which case you open the case and reset the cmos with the jumper.

                        Good luck.

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                        • impostal22
                          disgruntled...
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1623

                          #27
                          bluestrike- ya, but i shouldn't be getting these types of errors with it...*i* use firebird, i love it...but again, not my comp

                          monkey- no



                          so what should i do exactly? first try changing the memory timings? and if that doesn't help, flash bios? flashing bios is just installing bios like a normal install, yes?

                          also, how would i be able to tell if the memory timings were worse than they were before but not so bad that the compy can't boot?

                          thanks all for help, please help me with these last questions.

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                          • jefbarn
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 13

                            #28
                            Like I said...get Prime95 and select the cpu torture test from the menu. Use the default settings. If the program runs for an hour or more, the hardware is probably fine....let it run overnight to be sure. This program basically just tries to calculate big prime numbers over and over again....it uses lots of cpu, cache and memory. If the system is stable, it should run fine without any errors (it's not doing anything "special" or "funny" that will damage your computer...just normal computing operations)

                            More likely, if there is a problem with the board or memory, you will see an error within a minute or two. If that happens, try up-ing the timings in the bios and re-test. If that doesn't work, flash the new bios (but make sure you don't already have the newest one first).

                            Here's the link:
                            Last edited by jefbarn; 04-27-2004, 09:58 PM.

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                            • Buff
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2002
                              • 414

                              #29
                              can someone confirm this before i do it? PLEASE?
                              I will
                              I run 2-2-2-11 on one rig, my bro's rig runs 2.5-3-2-11.
                              NForce 2 mobos dont work well with cas 3.
                              also, te A7N8X I own is kinda touchy. Dont know why cp uses them, the NF7 is way more reliable. update the bios though. If it gets messed up, I can help u there.

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                              • impostal22
                                disgruntled...
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 1623

                                #30
                                jefbarn- will do once i get back to my sister's comp

                                buff- if i change the timings..basically all i wanna know is how can i figure out which timing is BEST for the memory? how can i tell that whatever i switch it to is either not as good as it could be or the best?

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