If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there...

[beam]

to hear it, does it make a noise?

Better yet: If I google something and get 0, zero, zip, nada results, does that mean that it doesn't exist????

Freebie bonus: If you google Bioloaf Inc. you only get two results! lol

[dwab3000]

yes...even thoughnothings there to accept the soundwaves

no the thing about google...nope...there are things that exist that ive googled and got nuthing back

[ZSigErik]

But isnt our definition of "sound" the refractions of such waves throughout the sensory resceptors in our ears, such as the ear drum and what not?

Without the manufactured representation of this sound, in the ear, or whatever area that can pick up sound likewise, then is the sound truely still created?

[dwab3000]

yes...leave a sound recorder...truly, no ones there...

also, leave a blind person totally deaf, cant hear a thing, in the woods when the tree falls, leave him with something that measure sound waves

[cphilip]

But isnt our definition of "sound" the refractions of such waves throughout the sensory resceptors in our ears, such as the ear drum and what not?

Without the manufactured representation of this sound, in the ear, or whatever area that can pick up sound likewise, then is the sound truely still created?

Correct....

[ZSigErik]

Booya! Straight from the man!

[punkncat]

to hear it, does it make a noise? Ask a Squirrel

Better yet: If I google something and get 0, zero, zip, nada results, does that mean that it doesn't exist????I do know there are things that could come up on a google search that I WISH didn't exist....

Freebie bonus: If you google Bioloaf Inc. you only get two results! lolI will file this away in possible future Trivial Pursuit questions.

[cphilip]

to hear it, does it make a noise? Ask a Squirrel

Better yet: If I google something and get 0, zero, zip, nada results, does that mean that it doesn't exist????I do know there are things that could come up on a google search that I WISH didn't exist....

Freebie bonus: If you google Bioloaf Inc. you only get two results! lolI will file this away in possible future Trivial Pursuit questions.

If something... anything... with ear drums and a brain or for that matter almost any method of tansfering shock waves to brain waves i.e. sound were present it would indeed be sound.

[dwab3000]

but..the sound waves are there they just dont get recieved by our ear drums

[jpdgas]

If the sound is loud enough it is picked up in the form of vibration from the rest or you body (like bass) so the definition of sound could not be based on ears alone. Who was that composer who was deaf? Dont remember which one but he wrote music based on the varied vibrations of each note. So I guess if he were in the woods he could tell you if the tree was on tune or flat.

[USMCARR]

The real question is this: If a tree falls in the woods and nobody, and nothing is there to hear/record it, who cares if it makes a sound because nobody and nothing is there to hear/record it?

If the sound is loud enough it is picked up in the form of vibration from the rest or you body (like bass) so the definition of sound could not be based on ears alone. Who was that composer who was deaf? Dont remember which one but he wrote music based on the varied vibrations of each note. So I guess if he were in the woods he could tell you if the tree was on tune or flat.

The composer you're thinking of was probobly Beethoven. He wrote some great music. HOWEVER... he didn't lose his hearing until he was 32. I have personally met people who can write small pieces of music for a small group without hearing it until it's complete, and it turns out right, so it stands to reason that Beethoven, probobly one of the greatest composers of all time, could do the same with a large piece of music written for a large orchestra, and have it turn out right without ever hearing it. Good argument though.

[RenagadeOfFunk]

...if we all beat you up to death for making stupid threads...and know one tells....is it murder? ...or just another unsolved case?

[RenagadeOfFunk]

...i had to make another post cause i just thought of this...

IF no one was around to see if it fell...did it fall at all...

...what we believe is the truth my not be the truth because we only see things from our point of view and not every single circumstance has been carried out...on this universe or on all the others...

[trevorjk]

...if we all beat you up to death for making stupid threads...and know one tells....is it murder? ...or just another unsolved case?

or

if i fart will you be able to smell it?

[RenagadeOfFunk]

...i hope not...