Do you still support the war?

[punkncat]

I find it hard to support this war. The reasoning behind it are shady and revenge and oil seem to be the drive.

The war in Afganistan I can draw a direct, easy line to and say "Yes that needed to be done". Someone invades our nation and I can back that. But Iraq just seems to be a war of conveniance to me.
Just my opinion and I really am disinterested in what anyone else thinks about it.

[cphilip]

Well one thing you can glean from that Time article is the folllowing

Terrorists were looking for a place to group and do bad terrorist things. Now they think they got one.

Bathists who used to do bad things under the guise of government now are looking for some other reason to do bad things. And I guess just being nice is not in thier nature because they would rather kill for some cause rather than just be good and live a happy life. So they do things in the name of religon instead! And what little moralistic thoughts they used to have they somehow have reasoned away in order to do it!!! Its easier for them to justify killing more "categories" than NOT KILLING at all! This is the mind set that some of you do not seem to want to accept. This is not the mindset of normal human beings. American nor Iraqis.

These people want to kill us. Either there or here. No matter the fact we are on thier soil as thats not just thier only goal. Its a temporary excuse to rally a few more members. They just want to kill us. Period.

Now one thing I noticed in our favor is they flocking to one area. Where we know where they are. And if for some reaon you were against this action before you got MORE reason to continue it until they are all dead. Hey...they are all in a place where you know where they are! And now you have more reason than you ever did before to make sure more of them do not get out of there. Thats once you finaly accept the fact that these people will not stop just because you leave them there. They think its thier purpose in life to kill you.

So... think about it. Some of that is just bad guys ruminating and spouting trash talk I realize but some of it is the insite into how criminals think.

[-Carnifex-]

I think the removal of Saddam from power should have been a covert ops opperation. The way we're doing it now we're creating more terrorists.

[Slimm Jimm]

We need to support the troops and finish what we started. Its too late to decide if you are "anti-war."

Enough said. I don't think we had any right to be there in the first place, but the decision was made, and we need to see it through.

[Jonneh]

I think the removal of Saddam from power should have been a covert ops opperation. The way we're doing it now we're creating more terrorists.

SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS.

[cphilip]

I think the removal of Saddam from power should have been a covert ops opperation. The way we're doing it now we're creating more terrorists.

Not at all. They just coming to one target..erm....I mean one place.

... in hopes we will blink an eye and don't have the guts to see it through. Thats what is rallying them now. You are... People they think are weak and they hope will not believe they will still kill you anyway. They loving that. They doing everything they can to scare you away and to give you false hope so they can be left to organize and then come kill you anyway. These men just said so.

Although some of them were before this "Bathists" if you chose to consider them some sort of advantage? Killers all of them... different causes is all. Mainly criminalistic mindsets. You can study the behaviour of murderers and see some similarities. They all have a "reason". However bizarre and unpalatable it might be.... and incoherant.

I don't think they are "created" but out of the evilness that makes anyone an antisocial monster. The problem is when they get control and convnce people like you that they are normal and its justified. thats the danger. Then while your simpathizing with them they slip up behind you and slit your throat. Because its thier cause to do so...

[Mister Sinister]

I think the removal of Saddam from power should have been a covert ops opperation. The way we're doing it now we're creating more terrorists.

Well to just go in and assinate him would have been illegal. Probably not too wise of a move either. Just what we would need would be to make a martyr of Saddam. You need to remove the whole regime. Thats what this whole de-bathification movement is about.

As to the original point of the thread. Yes I do support the war. This is an ugly nasty thing to do but it is something that did need to be done. Saddam at anytime could have complied with the UN and avoided the whole war.

[-Carnifex-]

I don't think they are "created" but out of the evilness that makes anyone an antisocial monster. The problem is when they get control and convnce people like you that they are normal and its justified. thats the danger. Then while your simpathizing with them they slip up behind you and slit your throat. Because its thier cause to do so...

I agree with everything before this and keep in mind, I have no doubt that they'd kill me given the chance. I don't believe terrorists are in the right or would give me a chance. I have no sympathy for terrorists whatsoever

What I mean is, that if we invade as we have, there will be civillian casualties and some, likely many, will rail agains the US because of this. Thereby creating more terrorists. I believe if we would use more covert ops (Though now that I reread, I misworded my last post. It'd be impossible to change regime with covert ops. I meant to say terrorism.) it would be more effective. Of course, I guess we wouldn't know if the US was using covert ops.

[ShooterJM]

Yep, still support the war.

And all the jihad screaming idiots (and muslim fools who don't openly condemn their actions) better get down on their knees and thank allah that I'm not dictator of the US.

[_tMAN]

I support Our Troops, Not The War!

[PissedGodzilla]

To support the troops, is to support the war, period. You cannot have it both ways.

If you do not approve of what we are doing here, then whatever I do cannot be supported by you in any way. If you support me, then you approve of my killing people and building a free nation.
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That's not true army, I support you and all the troops, but I don't think we had cause to be there, now that we are there, I will supprt you 100% but I still believe us being there may be a mistake. that's how I feel, and you can't tell me I'm wrong because you can't tell me what my feelings are.

[Albinonewt]

That's not true army, I support you and all the troops, but I don't think we had cause to be there, now that we are there, I will supprt you 100% but I still believe us being there may be a mistake. that's how I feel, and you can't tell me I'm wrong because you can't tell me what my feelings are.

Then just like Carnifex you are different then the people Army is talking about.


When conservatives were against the Clinton interventions it was because we didn't want to engage in nation builing that had little to no strategic affect on the US. We thought it was a waste of resources and man power. But at the same time we always supported the killing of the people that meant our forces harn. We supoprted the actions of our soldiers and we wanted more then anything for them to succeed and come home.

Some liberals, like Joe Liberman to name one, are like that with the Iraq war. They may or may not have cared for going into Iraq but now that the soldiers are there Joe Lieberman fully supports the soldiers and supports their mission. He votes for additional funding and his rhetoric clearly demostrates that he believes the soldiers are fighting the good fight and deserve all the support we can muster.

i truly believe that more of the "antii-war" crowd fits this description then guys like me normally are willing to admit.

But its the other crowd of anti-war guys that Army is really talking about. Guys like Kerry that say they support the soldiers but then vote against the money needed for the war because he disagrees with the President. Guys like that don't support the troops. Kerry probably honestly wants all the soldiers to come home alive, but he doesn't support them. Guys like that professor that wished 1,000 Black Hawk Down scenarios on our soldiers don't supoprt the soldiers. Guys like Ted Kennedy who spout on and on about the Tyranny of our soldiers and their (made up) policy of torture do not support our soldiers. Those are the guys Army is talking about. Not guys like Joe Lieberman, you, and Carnifex

[1stdeadeye]

Newt say it ain't so! All the anti-war protestors are whacko commie bastages!!!!

[RoadDawg]

SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS.

Someone call an exterminator?

[Empyreal Rogue]

SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS.

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