I OFFICIALY Hate ZEPPELIN....

[Cryer]

Zeppelin was tallented, i will give them that, but any true music enthusiast has to admit, that lynrd skynrd was the epitome of tallent. Free Bird is the song i am reffering to. 3 Guitars, all playing along, to make the best solo of all time (as voted by guitar player magazine)

Hearing it live is even more amazing. Ive herd people try to duplicate it, but they all seem to fail, you cannot duplicate greatness like that. The song is amazing, and if you do not agree, then you need to check your musical appreciation.

Yeah, but do you hear cool devil-words when you play 'Sweet Home Alabama', or 'Tuesday's Gone' backwards?

[fcpchop]

wow darkensun, ya that about sums it all up. that just gave me the willies, why would u want to live in a place like that? i cant stand that kind of stuff.

well yes free bird is an amazing song and that guitar solo is incrediable, but beyond that they dont stand out to me, led amazes me with many songs, not just 1. but yes skynrd are an incrediable band too

[Echo419]

Hey Darken Sun, mind giving more info about the "Forgive me lord" stuff, i didnt quite get that

[coolcatpete]

ok i found the explanation thing
"Until approximately 1985, Page owned and lived in Crowley's former house, "Boleskine," a sprawling farmhouse on the shores of Loch Ness, sometimes called the "Toolhouse" Boleskine was originally purchased in 1900, by Crowley, for almost twice its value, because it met certain requirements of the Books of Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin the Mage. These requirements included windows and a door that opened to the north toward a secluded structure that was to serve as an oratory. It's commonly assumed that a small outbuilding to the far right was the oratory. 11

Crowley stated in his diary that "shadowy shapes" used to escape the oratory and enter the house. It's been reported that during subsequent rituals these "shadowy shapes" were unleashed with dire effects on visitors, staff, and a few hapless visitors from nearby Foyers.12

According to Davis, Jimmy Page was quoted in Roadrunner magazine discussing further cases of madness and mayhem including the story that Boleskine was once the site of "a church that burned to the ground with the congregation in it." 13 This brief, historical background gives tremendous insights into the profoundly significant metaphors contained in both the forward and reversed lyrics of "Stairway to Heaven." Sung forward, the song is basically a story of a woman who's searching for the meaning of life and the path to heaven. In the forward lyrics she sees signs on the wall but cautions that words can have more than one meaning. The bird that sings from the tree tells of thoughts that are misgiven. The thoughts carry images of "smoke" (perhaps fog) in the trees and the voices of those who stand apparently watching from among the trees. This is apparently the same group that is rewarded for their long-standing with the dawn of a new day and the forest's echo of laughter. There's great significance to the lyrics when they're viewed from the perspective of Reverse Speech. When we consider the complementary nature of the song, it appears to be partially a song of hope for all those who according to the legends once suffered at Boleskine.

The lyrics also seem to be a message from the unconscious mind that details its own communicative style. In the process of writing the song the way he did, Jimmy Page unknowingly established the complementary criteria for reversals to occur that speak of their own existence.

"Words have two meanings," and "thoughts are misgiven," appear at the start of the song. Note the complementarity with the last reversal on the song. As soon as the song is reversed, it says quite clearly, "Pl-a-a-a-a-a-y backward. Hear words sung." This is not an intentionally backmasked message, but rather a genuine speech reversal. It almost seems as though the unconscious mind is calling out and saying, "Hey, listen to me. I can communicate."

The lyrics also form a reversal that says: There was a little tool shed where he made us suffer, sad Satan. Jimmy Page may have unconsciously used the words tool shed to refer to the small outbuilding that was the oratory (Boleskine itself was the Toolhouse). The reported "shadowy figures" may be those who have stood for so long in the smoke, but are promised the dawning of a new day.

The last stanza declares not only that there are two paths that can be taken, but also that it is not too late to change roads. This last stanza contains the reversal It's my sweet Satan, the one whose little path would make me sad, whose power is fake.

Their are references to "path," "forest," and "hedgerow" all of which are descriptive of the setting of the Boleskine mansion. The word Satan itself may be a metaphor for the suffering and pain that occurred in and around Boleskine. The parallels of these images and the legends that surround Boleskine are compelling.

Other reversals that some people have quoted in this song as a basis for their claims, include: "There's no escaping it / I will sing 'cause I live with Satan / They gotta live for Satan." These reversals are so vague and imprecise, however (validity 1-2), that only the very bold would use them as the basis for an argument.

Finally, a reversal appears on a live version of the song sung in 1976, that says: Forgive me Lord, forgive me Lord, forgive me Lord. How could this be considered satanic? Who's asking for forgiveness and why? Since when does the nature of Satan, metaphoric or otherwise, include forgiveness? Is the song a stairway to heaven, a stairway to hell, or something totally different? Stephen Davis wrote a description that may be accurate regardless of how you choose to answer these questions. He said: "It expressed an ineffable yearning for spiritual transformation deep in the heart of the generation for which it was intended."
-from Reverse Speech: Voices From The Unconscious

That was awesome man I love rock knowledge except this gives me the willies, I will stick to listening to him only in fowwards.
Pete

[Darken Sun]

why would u want to live in a place like that?

Jimmy Page was a HUGE Aleister Crowley follower, so he bought his mansion. And inside the mansion...was Crowley memorabilia

[-Carnifex-]

Even if there was no reason or metaphor behind the reverse speech why would it matter?
It pisses you off what someone does with their music? If you don't like it don't listen to it.

[Darken Sun]

Hey Darken Sun, mind giving more info about the "Forgive me lord" stuff, i didnt quite get that

I dont know much about that, but it was probably from the lyrics Robert Plant added in live performances, kinda like improv. guitar solos. I dont even know if its true though because i cant find a live copy of the song from '76

[Echo419]

ty darken sun for trying.... That still blows my mind

[_tMAN]

For one thing, that's really old

and another thing, It says "sad Satan", now why would he be sad? Maybe becuase some of his "followers" left him for something else...
just something for you to think about

[Echo419]

oh... i see what ur saying, I think T_Man could be rite for once. I think he actually may be saying that he is leaving satan. Cuz at the end he does say something about there are two paths

[Jack_Dubious]

Keep Music Evil.

[behemoth]

Echo, my respect for you has gone from 0 to -999999999

HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU HATE LED!!!

YOU SHALL SUFFER IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY, with you atheist friends.

[Warewolf50]

If u listen to that backward clip and u dont have what u are suspoded to hear typed out in front of u really dont hear anyting. I mean i listened to it about 10 times backwards before i looked at what i was susposed to hear and all i head was satan one then somehting that sounded kinda like 666. Then when i looked at what i was susposed to hear and i head al lof it. So i domt really think there is anything there but owell.

Here is a quote this threadmade me think of "u beter hope satans colon is a nice place, casue thats where your gonna be living" anyone know whats that from.

[Echo419]

"FiRe" What the hell dude... Your gunna hate me now b/c I dont think worshipping the devil is good.... And now your gunna hate me more b/c all my friends are athiast and im christian and have to stand up for my self every day?

[WickeDKlowN]

like Warewolf said, if you don't look at the words, you don't hear anything.

This is pretty old too, I remember it being posted a while back.