Assault weapon ban lifted in 4 days!!!

[pbzmag]

Have fun guys. Us Califorians won't see those. Damn state made them illegal. The only time I'll get to shoot full-auto is in a firearms class. And I only got to do that once! It was only a M-4 converted for 9mm rounds, but was fun to shoot! Hopefully, someone brings their Beret to my friends gun club meet.

[BrockSampson]

I believe fully automatic weapons were always illegal. The "assault weapon" ban only applied to certain semis deemed non-utilitarian.

[fire1811]

Kerry already has a plan set up to get this back into effect.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/14/MNGBO8OCFM1.DTL

[HoppysMag]

I believe fully automatic weapons were always illegal. The "assault weapon" ban only applied to certain semis deemed non-utilitarian.

You need a special license to own them.

[PyRo]

Are tactical shotguns legal now or have they always been?

I don't see what the hell differance it makes if I shoot someone with a gun that looks more dangerous than another. I hope gun companies take this oppertunity while the ban is gone to produce enough of the banned guns to last us the next hundred years.

[FragTek]

This is a bit off topic, but if anyone knows of a used or even new (even more hard to come by) Glock 18 for sale holla at me. I've been in the market for one for years but am having a helluva time trying to find one since Glock thinks you should go to the factory and be trained on it before they sell you one. I'd rather get one used if possible.

Anyhow, keep me posted if anyone comes across one. Thanks.

[HoppysMag]

pump shotguns are not touched by the laws...
semi are/were illegal if they had more than 5 shot fixed mag.and have more than one of these charecteristics.

pistol grip
folding/ telescoping stock
detachable magazine


and specificly metions " revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; "

heres the exemption
"D) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine. "

[PyRo]

So a 5 shot gun with a pistol grip , folding stock, and detachable magazine is legal then?
Is it possible to get a permit for a Street Sweaper? I know someone who has a dealers license about bought one legally a long time ago.

What about bayonets? Is there such a thing as pre-ban on them, I see older WWII rifles with bayonets on them fairly often. What crackmonkey banned them anyway, I doubt there could have been more than 10 murders with bayonets within the last 50 years. Now if I want to stab someone while I have a gun pointed at them I have to be inconvienced with taking out my knife, yup that will certainly stop a killer.

[fire1811]

What about bayonets? Is there such a thing as pre-ban on them, I see older WWII rifles with bayonets on them fairly often.

yes there are preban guns with bayonets. i have one. the law made it illegal to produce a gun with a bayonet lug on it.

[fire1811]

This is a bit off topic, but if anyone knows of a used or even new (even more hard to come by) Glock 18 for sale holla at me. I've been in the market for one for years but am having a helluva time trying to find one since Glock thinks you should go to the factory and be trained on it before they sell you one. I'd rather get one used if possible.

Anyhow, keep me posted if anyone comes across one. Thanks.

might check here they have tons of things for sale

http://auctionarms.com/

[cphilip]

Kerry already has a plan set up to get this back into effect.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGBO8OCFM1.DTL

Oh how convenient! Is that so? A plan eh? After the fact is sort of like deriliction of duty is it not? ... If Kerry had a plan and he is still in congress.... why did he not sponsor legislation to extend it already? Fact is no one did. Kerry sure didn't. Bush said he would sign it. But he had to wait till it hit his desk. fact is no one had the guts nor reason to sponsor extention of a bill that was pretty much worthless. This was a bill that outlawed things that "looked" like assault weapons. And everyone knows if its black it must be bad right? Wrong! Nothing changed important with this bill except maybe one could argue clips sizes. And everyone knows you can tape those together if your so inclined to do so. Everyone knows the law did absolutely nothing but make a few people feel like they were actually doing something. In fact it did nothing. It is an always was a worthless bill and deserved to die.

And anyone now saying that someone who did nothing to keep it is for crime should look in the mirror. Because in fact Kerry had as much, no wait! MORE responsibility to sponsor an extention of he felt it was this way and should be ashamed of himself if he didn't do it. Fact is he knows its a worthless bill and deserves to die just like all the rest of congress. To attempt to use it as an attack is a cheap hypocritical nosensical logic that is about to backfire. Ask him were his sponsorship of the extention of that bill is.... He was MORE responsible for doing that if he truely believes what he is saying now than anyone was. The President cannot sign something that Congress does not send up. So..... where is it Kerry? where is your sponsorship of this bill you deam so important? Were is it?

[HoppysMag]

banning bayonet lugs will cut down on all those inner city drive by bayonettings

[BrockSampson]

pump shotguns are not touched by the laws...
semi are/were illegal if they had more than 5 shot fixed mag.and have more than one of these charecteristics.
pistol grip
folding/ telescoping stock
detachable magazine

any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than 5 rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine. "

Hmmm... I don't know. I've had my 1100 for almost a year now. It's a semi-auto 12 gauge with an 8 round magazine, but it doesn't have any of the other 3 things (pistol grip, folding stock, detachable mag).

[PyRo]

Hmmm... I don't know. I've had my 1100 for almost a year now. It's a semi-auto 12 gauge with an 8 round magazine, but it doesn't have any of the other 3 things (pistol grip, folding stock, detachable mag).

Then your 1100 is legal. You can have a 10,000 round magazine so long as it doesn't have any of those three.

[fire1811]

banning bayonet lugs will cut down on all those inner city drive by bayonettings

exactly do you realize how much more reach you can get hanging out a window now.