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  • lather
    Registered User
    • Jul 2004
    • 591

    #31
    Anyone own a pm7m8? (I think its an HK has the decocker/cocker on the grip) A friend of mine at our local range let me shoot a few rounds a couple a weekends ago and I really was impressed.

    I liked it so much I was considering getting one, but from the impression I got from the owner is that they are no longer being produced.

    If anyone owns one let me know what they like/dislike about it. It was just starting to get to be a must-have handgun for me, but my buddy didnt want me shooting all of his 9mm
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    • Blennidae
      an epileptic hummingbird
      • Nov 2001
      • 1920

      #32
      I don't own one, but I have always wanted to try one. Its still listed on the HK website. so its still being produced. http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le/p7m8.html I have heard they are very expensive, new or used.

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      • Firedude
        Registered User
        • Oct 2003
        • 31

        #33
        Originally posted by Bulldog
        Ya, mostly the .40s around here. Not sure on the model numbers though of the smaller glocks, I've seen some that are pretty dang small. I can't even get my pinky on the grip, though I think I've seen some sorta extension that fixes that.

        Edit: I think it's the 26 model for backup/offduty. Though I've known see the 19 carried as a primary. Mostly by women with smaller hands. That's not a slam, even though it sounds like one. Honest.
        Model 22's are what most departments carry in a Glock 40. I really like mine that has been issued to me. I also have a HK USP 45 acp(among other guns), which is also a sweet pistol. Have shot a few Sigs, and have even thought of buying a 226, but I don't really care for the decocking lever. Just my .02.

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        • magmanl337
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          • Jul 2002
          • 936

          #34
          Whats the average price of a box of 9mm? (50 in a box i think)


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          • Steelrat
            I meant to...uh, nevermind
            • May 2003
            • 5375

            #35
            Originally posted by lather
            Anyone own a pm7m8? (I think its an HK has the decocker/cocker on the grip) A friend of mine at our local range let me shoot a few rounds a couple a weekends ago and I really was impressed.

            I liked it so much I was considering getting one, but from the impression I got from the owner is that they are no longer being produced.

            If anyone owns one let me know what they like/dislike about it. It was just starting to get to be a must-have handgun for me, but my buddy didnt want me shooting all of his 9mm
            I've shot em. US Park police carry them. They are good shooting guns, but a bit complex, and the gun vents its gas by the trigger, which gets rather hot during extended shooting. Judging by the lack of similar designs, I would say that it was a developmental dead-end.


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            • cphilip
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              • Jun 2026
              • 16216

              #36
              Ah.... good old South Carolina!!

              SOUTH CAROLINA--South Carolina allows a loaded handgun to be secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console or closed trunk.


              Note--most other states consider a loaded gun in a glove box or console to be concealed and therefore possibly illegal.


              Whats the point of having one if it ain't loaded we figure? Common ya'll.... get with it!


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              • Blennidae
                an epileptic hummingbird
                • Nov 2001
                • 1920

                #37
                Originally posted by magmanl337
                Whats the average price of a box of 9mm? (50 in a box i think)
                Most 9mm comes 50 to a box. Price depends on what type you are buying. Cheap plinking ammo can be had for under $10. The more specialized defense/LE type ammo is more expensive.

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                • Destructo6
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 549

                  #38
                  Wallyworld (Walmart) sells Winchester White box in 100rnd boxes for just over $10. Kinda smelly/dirty, but it's cheap.

                  Turner's Outdoorsman (local SoCal chain) has PMC 9mm for $7/50.

                  IIRC, Speer Lawman fmj is about $11/50.
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                  • Aegis
                    To old for this
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 596

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Steelrat
                    Ever run a double feed drill in a glock? You can't use a brass cartridge, because it will become horribly jammed. You have to use a special plastic round. Unfortunately, guess what will be in your breech when you have a double feed? Thats right, the brass cartridge. Ooops.
                    Gotta agree with Steelrat on this. IMHO, the Glock is more likely to stovepipe than the others you mention and you will have a similar situation.

                    Before anyone gets excited about that statement: I used a 17L & 22 in IPSC stock class competition. Never had a problem in normal positions, but when shooting weak hand or in some funky position where you are not as well braced they had a tendency to partially extract the case. If you didn't have a good braced position the mass of the slide would push the frame back as well and you don't get a good kick off the ejector.

                    That was a while back, might have been cured by now. Won't ever happen when it doesn't matter, by the way.
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                    • whymillywhy
                      Kotex Fits. Period.
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 107

                      #40
                      You need to move to South Dakota, There aren't barely any gun laws, my dad is an avid gun collector with many guns, on the top of my head I can think of:
                      4 .22's
                      2 SKS's
                      2 MAC-90is (AK-47 Variants)
                      3-4 AR-15's
                      5-6+ Shotguns of various kinds, one custom fit for me to use when I was 12
                      1 Colt 1911
                      1 Desert Eagle
                      Police 6-shooter, a couple
                      2-3 .22 pistols
                      1-2 Mini 14's
                      1 Hunting Rifle of some kind
                      1 Japanese 6-7mm Rifle, maybe 2, one of them was my g'pa's war trophy
                      1-2 9mm Pistols
                      1 M-1903
                      Few other Hunting Rifles

                      As you can see, it isn't a person you want to run into, he lives in a remote area, he has almost had to use them a few times, I have taken the MAC-90 Deer Hunting before, didn't get anything, just buck-fever :P

                      He prolly has more or less, he is quite a collector, they are fun to shoot tho.

                      Most of those gun are illegal in Cali btw.
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