ATTN: Post whores

[thecavemankevin]

If you represent everyone then lets have a vote on weather or not stupid threads should be allowed

no, cause then the librals would stand over you makeing sure you computer works and that you voted for who you wanted. Oh, and plus the fact that we would not be allowed to let the Floridia AO memebers vote

ps. he'd still loose 51% to 48%

[thecavemankevin]

What did I change? I didn't change anything.

My point is this: Mango is the only thing that keeps the place friendly anymore and by removing him, you just made it a more boring place. Seriously, WHO CARES about his pointless threads? Oh ya... Most people enjoy them as they promote a more interesting conversation than some stupid court hearing that nobody gives a crap about.

And yes... I am the pillar of AO. Bow to me, I am the hippest.

he didn't remove him, he just told him to cut the crap out

[ASDadam]

I agree, i used to come here and see threads that served a purpose and threads that had substance to them. Now i see threads that say stuff like group hug and nothing but smilies. Truthfully, i see no point in it other than like phil said, pushing good threads down to the bottom. I may not post alot, but thats because i haven't seen a reason to post much lately with all the smiley crap going on.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

What is this place? It's an online message board for people to post. It's not like we are posting in any other forum, we're in friendly for crying out loud.

AO has changed A LOT in the past year. What is there to talk about anymore? Nothing.

So AO is lucky to keep any of the regulars around anymore.

Keeping the place ALIVE is what the name of the game is. Keeping it INTERESTING and FUN. Thats the purpose of friendly corner isent it?

phil, I have to say you totally miss the point of a "Friendly Corner."

Mostly those parts, Phil.

[ASDadam]

to claim you represent "everyone" is rediculous. you represent the owners, administration and management of this site. but i for one would rather some one NOT claim to represent me ( as part of the group entitled "everyone") because no matter what an individual says you as the rep are gunna do what you claim is the wish of the majority. i dont remember any votes. i dont remember being asked what i thought. you represent the management of this site. not me and not always the will of the people/

Please remove yourself from this thread. As in you are FAR from a majority. Phil's job is to represent a majority of AO'ers. This includes the thousands of people on here. You are one, so don't act all offended because Phil didn't represent your view on this topic as if he was agreeing on a topic you liked, you'd be worshiping him. So take you're view of representation and say bye bye because votes aren't needed here because phil is doing the right thing and doing a damned fine job as being a moderator. You're just being self rightious spoiled brats.

[HoppysMag]

Please remove yourself from this thread. As in you are FAR from a majority. Phil's job is to represent a majority of AO'ers. This includes the thousands of people on here. You are one, so don't act all offended because Phil didn't represent your view on this topic as if he was agreeing on a topic you liked, you'd be worshiping him. So take you're view of representation and say bye bye because votes aren't needed here because phil is doing the right thing and doing a damned fine job as being a moderator. You're just being self rightious spoiled brats.

no. one person cant claim to represent a group with out the group having an input. phil doesn not represent the members of AO. he represents the owners of the site.
if you cant see taht your blind. this forum does a much better job at pleasing its users than alot of other forums but the facts still remain we were not asked who we want to represent us or in what way. I voted for bush, but had kerry won i would still respect him as president because he won. he was elected, our reps are elected. phil was apointed. two completely differant systems there. and i wont remove myself from this thread because this is a good topic that will have effects on future AO. and by getting as much input into this thread we take another step to having a system that works to the advantage of both the users and owners

[cphilip]

Mostly those parts, Phil.

Well.. lets take it point by point

Our off topic forum. (You mean there are things other than paintball??) Please keep your posts civil, and refrain from topics that are likely to start problems. (NOTE: Any thread may be closed for any reason.)

Pulling statements others made is not exactly going to help you there. You just gonna agree with statements that you don't even know how to defend? Seems like it...

Now does that definition of Feindly Corner imply that five or six threads a day with only Smillies in them are "topics" and that they are no likely to start problems? I don't think so. And I am here to tell you they do not

Nor do they make Friendly corner a better place. In fact after a while they make it a stupid corner.

Now lets take the point that "its changed here". Well who is responsible for that? You are! I spend time each day finding topics of interest for here. I spend a few moments each day trying to contribute to good topics here. I do my part to make it interesting. You few dopes do not! You think being (acting like at least) stoner idiots if funny ALL THE TIME. It is sometimes. But after a while dudes, as your friend, I gotta tell ya its not.

Mango starting posting topics with no subject at all and doing it over and over again is FUN? Sorry I don't subscribe to that. One or two is "funny". But after a while its assinine and stupid. And its NOT changing AO FOR THE BETTER. The changes in AO are NOT the result of AO. Its the members. Take a look in the mirror if you want AO to change for the better.

The points you decided to quote are not points at all. They are self serving statements. Most of them erroneous conclusions or in most cases making no point. They are arguments for a position that has no sound foundation. They are meaningless because they conlude that there is no solution to a problem you percieve other than your own. They take no one else into account. They are selfish and self serving positions for a weak solution you decided on your own to inflict upon us all. You have no such right to do so.

Now here we have a user that decided he didn't like the actions of closing these "Non Topic" threads he started. So his actions are his own. He must take responsibility for his actions.

If he thinks his method of "making things fun" is fun.... I got a reality check for him. It ain't workin!

[ASDadam]

And do you not understand that phil was appointed for the fact that he could do a good job of a mod by representing all parties involved? He wasn't appointed to represent Tom and his company AGD in a commercial sense, he was appointed to police and patrol these forums for the good of everyone. Like all the mods, they were appointed to represent everyone, because we as a group shouldn't elect. Tom is impartial to the BS that goes on at this site alot of the time, thats why its much better that he appoint. If we voted, people that don't deserve the responsibility would have it.

[cphilip]

And do you not understand that phil was appointed for the fact that he could do a good job of a mod by representing all parties involved? He wasn't appointed to represent Tom and his company AGD in a commercial sense, he was appointed to police and patrol these forums for the good of everyone. Like all the mods, they were appointed to represent everyone, because we as a group shouldn't elect. Tom is impartial to the BS that goes on at this site alot of the time, thats why its much better that he appoint. If we voted, people that don't deserve the responsibility would have it.

thats a very good point. If it were an election for say Mods.... I would not be free to get into these nasty things I have to get into without concern for my position. I would be afraid to act strongly. And even now I weight carefully if its a battle I really need to enter into. You pick those carefully. Because its nothing but trouble. It would be easier for me to ignore. But I would not be doing my job if I did that. I have to act with some sense of impunity. And I try my best to be sure I am as right as I can be when I do. There is no clear cut time or action. You just have to go with what morals you upbringing instilled into you and do what you think is "the right thing". I always pray what I am doing is the right thing. And often it turns out to be...

[HoppysMag]

and what im trying to say is i dont want some one to claim they represent me when i have no input on what he does. i like phil, and i have nothing against him. hes decisions have worked both in favor and against me. and to this day ( after being on the board for 3 years now and being an active poster) i still ask him before i do anything that might be "against the rule". this is not a matter of me trying to rebel. its the fact that hes "representing" us when we have no formal say in the matter. some of us like the light hearted threads. some dont. but untill i see ( in numbers) that the majority is against these threads, phil is still representing the intrust of the owners of the forum. hes trying to limit post that the administration deem pointless. he doesnt represent me. he represents the owners.


EDIT: added after seeing phils post. if it were an election and you did a good job of ballencing both the users and owners need i think trivial matter would not keep you from being reelected. and should a person replace you that does not enforce any rules, the fact still remains that this is a private forum and that person can be removed from thier seat of power by the owners.

[atm743]

yaa its began !!! i know someone that posts more then pyro!!

[cphilip]

no. one person cant claim to represent a group with out the group having an input. phil doesn not represent the members of AO. he represents the owners of the site.
if you cant see taht your blind. this forum does a much better job at pleasing its users than alot of other forums but the facts still remain we were not asked who we want to represent us or in what way. I voted for bush, but had kerry won i would still respect him as president because he won. he was elected, our reps are elected. phil was apointed. two completely differant systems there. and i wont remove myself from this thread because this is a good topic that will have effects on future AO. and by getting as much input into this thread we take another step to having a system that works to the advantage of both the users and owners

I do my best to. I try and wiegh what I feel is the best interest of the site, the members, and the owner.

I was appointed because Tom felt I could do that. And I believe overall I do as good as anyone could.

You have not been denied any input at all have you? Many sites out there would not even discuss this at all with you. I have always done so.

[cphilip]

some of us like the light hearted threads. some dont. but untill i see ( in numbers) that the majority is against these threads,.

Again.... I like them too. I just will not allow five or six of them that have no topic at all to push interesting stuff off the first page. If they wanted to start... say.... "the daily pointless Topicless (is that a word?) thread each day... one thread. I would ignore it and probably would even contribute to it.

I am always looking for a compromise. None has been suggested. in fact....It was put to me... that it was all or nothing. You had to have everything. Or you considered it unacceptable...Thats not my doing. Its some of you'allzes.... (is that a word?). You should never take an untenable position on it right out of the box. Look back and see. It was not me saying you could not post any non topic threads .... was it! You see? Its your doing is what it is. You stepped on your own penises (is that a word?)

[HoppysMag]

i suggested a compromise on like the 1st page of this thread

then why not make a mindless boob forum? delete it periodicly.

why not make a forum where people can make pointless threads. and you guys can delete old ones every so often to keep from taking up bandwith?

[cphilip]

i suggested a compromise on like the 1st page of this thread



why not make a forum where people can make pointless threads. and you guys can delete old ones every so often to keep from taking up bandwith?

Why not just have it limited to one thread per day.... and title it appropriately? Makes sense to me... I can go with that.