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  • Eatem Alive
    Wait...What?
    • Aug 2003
    • 1150

    #46
    gpa's and where you finish in your class are over rated and having good handwriting/ spelling abilities, although in most cases do make a difference, aren't necessarily required. i have co-workers who cant spell for crap and their writing looks like they hold the pen with their toes but they make 100k plus a year because they have good work ethic and they are well knowledged in their field. I graduated high school with a 1.7 gpa (not because i'm dumb, i just hated school, it bored me) and have no college education but i have a good job that pays very well because i am a fast learner, work hard, show up every day even when i'm sick, learn every facet of the job, learn other peoples positions and i am very dedicated to the welfare of the company...overall just do the best possible job i can and make myself a more valuable employee. it got me to the number 2 position. i'm not saying that good spelling, grammer and education are a total waste, and if i had my rathers i would have a degree, but they are not imperative. sorry for rambling, i can't believe that a simple post can turn into the downgrading and name calling of others. on that note...i love this guy
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    • RogueFactoryKid
      What wouldnt Jesus Do?
      • Jul 2003
      • 1283

      #47
      Haha, i never thought spelling was that big of a deal. Until today when my friend spelled Burn "Bern" and wait "Wate" god my friend is stupid.
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      • DiSoRdeR
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        • Jul 2003
        • 1767

        #48
        Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
        waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
        frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl
        mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do
        not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.

        But yes I agree that more people should take spelling into consideration. People take you more seriously if your spelling is correct.

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        • SCpoloRicker
          HA HA I'm custom!!1
          • Jan 2004
          • 4375

          #49
          awesome re-post!! You could have at least included the inevitable explanation that some other moron will post up here in a few minutes

          It may not actually harm anyone, but it is irritating, and it does clearly put you into the "pretty much ignore" category. To whit; I seldom reply to a thread if the question is written as yourself EatemAlive, etc. etc. et all type. I may not be hitech, but I do think I have some input on a range of issues.


          Originally posted by EatemAlive
          gpa's and where you finish in your class are over rated and having good handwriting/ spelling abilities, although in most cases do make a difference, aren't necessarily required. i have co-workers who cant spell for crap and their writing looks like they hold the pen with their toes but they make 100k plus a year because they have good work ethic and they are well knowledged in their field. I graduated high school with a 1.7 gpa (not because i'm dumb, i just hated school, it bored me) and have no college education but i have a good job that pays very well because i am a fast learner, work hard, show up every day even when i'm sick, learn every facet of the job, learn other peoples positions and i am very dedicated to the welfare of the company...overall just do the best possible job i can and make myself a more valuable employee. it got me to the number 2 position. i'm not saying that good spelling, grammer and education are a total waste, and if i had my rathers i would have a degree, but they are not imperative. sorry for rambling, i can't believe that a simple post can turn into the downgrading and name calling of others. on that note...i love this guy
          Nothing about this makes you think that it is difficult to read, understand, and not make fun of? This is how you choose to express your opinion? I'm doing my best to comment fairly.

          When I see this "paragraph/blurb/thing" I find it very difficult to make sense of.
          God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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          • Eatem Alive
            Wait...What?
            • Aug 2003
            • 1150

            #50
            Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
            Nothing about this makes you think that it is difficult to read, understand, and not make fun of? This is how you choose to express your opinion? I'm doing my best to comment fairly.

            When I see this "paragraph/blurb/thing" I find it very difficult to make sense of.
            reads fine to me and yes, it is my opinion...i am allowed to have one. i am also allowed to not give a rats *** what anybody else thinks. that's what makes forums fun.
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            • SCpoloRicker
              HA HA I'm custom!!1
              • Jan 2004
              • 4375

              #51
              Originally posted by Eatem Alive
              gpa's and where you finish in your class are over rated and having good handwriting/ spelling abilities, although in most cases do make a difference, aren't necessarily required.

              i have co-workers who cant spell for crap and their writing looks like they hold the pen with their toes but they make 100k plus a year because they have good work ethic and they are well knowledged in their field.

              I graduated high school with a 1.7 gpa (not because i'm dumb, i just hated school, it bored me) and have no college education but i have a good job that pays very well because i am a fast learner, work hard, show up every day even when i'm sick, learn every facet of the job, learn other peoples positions and i am very dedicated to the welfare of the company...overall just do the best possible job i can and make myself a more valuable employee. it got me to the number 2 position.

              i'm not saying that good spelling, grammer and education are a total waste, and if i had my rathers i would have a degree, but they are not imperative. sorry for rambling, i can't believe that a simple post can turn into the downgrading and name calling of others.

              on that note...i love this guy
              five presses of the return button... looking better? Others may learn of your storied opinions more easily if you tried a little harder to speak clearly.
              God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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              • Eatem Alive
                Wait...What?
                • Aug 2003
                • 1150

                #52
                you sir, are incredibly anal. try discussing the topic and not my inability to please you.
                Last edited by Eatem Alive; 12-08-2004, 06:35 PM.
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                • Cameo
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 590

                  #53
                  Originally posted by DiSoRdeR
                  Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
                  waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
                  frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl
                  mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do
                  not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.

                  But yes I agree that more people should take spelling into consideration. People take you more seriously if your spelling is correct.
                  Acutally if you attended a private school rather then a public school you would not be able to read that paragraph. The reason is this, in 90% of private school reading is taught by PHONICS not by sight. Phonics is what was taught in all schools over 40 years ago.. Most if not all public schools have since strayed from teaching phonics because of the amount of time it takes to teach. Children who learn phonics tend to be better readers and spellers in the long run, they can sound out words, they learn different rules (such as when there are 2 vowels in a word is ther first vowel long or short?), and their reading comprehention scores are always higher. When you have a 2nd grader in a private school reading on a 5th grade level i would say yes hooked on phonics does work. But like I said before, my child was not able to make out any of the words in the above paragraph, yet she can read the Chronicals of Narnia series, and Charolettes Web. Go Figure, some food for thought.
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                  • SCpoloRicker
                    HA HA I'm custom!!1
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4375

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Eatem Alive
                    you sir, are incredibly anal. try discussing the topic and not my inability to please you.
                    Thread title isn't Whats the deal with simple spelling? I thought we had acknowledged you don't care about pleasing others...
                    God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                    • DiSoRdeR
                      Pump enthusiast
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1767

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Cameo
                      Acutally if you attended a private school rather then a public school you would not be able to read that paragraph. The reason is this, in 90% of private school reading is taught by PHONICS not by sight.
                      I did not know that, I like to be proven wrong. I have never been to a private school so I do not know how they teach, I was not aware that they are taught by PHONICS. Thank you for correcting me, I retract that statement.

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                      • SSMercury
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                        • Jun 2002
                        • 212

                        #56
                        Originally posted by bjjb99
                        The college I attended required that all freshmen take a pair of courses titled "rhetoric." These courses were designed to teach students to write clearly, cogently, and grammatically.

                        Freshmen took Rhetoric 101 during the fall semester and Rhetoric 102 during the spring semester. During the spring semester of their sophomore year, each student was required to pass a rhetoric proficiency exam. Failure to pass the exam resulted in a student's being placed in a remedial course of rhetoric during the fall semester of his junior year. At the end of the fall semester, students enrolled in the remedial rhetoric course were required to re-take the proficiency exam. Failure to pass the exam on this second attempt resulted in a student's being asked to leave the college. No student was allowed to graduate from the college without first having passed the proficiency exam.

                        I believe approximately 70% of students pass the proficiency exam on their first attempt. Of the remaining 30%, approximately 70% pass on their second attempt.

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                        Substitute "English" for Rhetoric, and "Writing Proficiency Exam" for "Rhetoric exam", and you have my college's equivalent. But we're nice (aka slackers), failing the WPE just means you need to retake the exam again until you pass it, we don't dismiss those who fail it. It's a graduation requirement though.
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                        • gibby
                          Kahuna Studios
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 2507

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Cameo
                          Acutally if you attended a private school rather then a public school you would not be able to read that paragraph. The reason is this, in 90% of private school reading is taught by PHONICS not by sight. Phonics is what was taught in all schools over 40 years ago.. Most if not all public schools have since strayed from teaching phonics because of the amount of time it takes to teach. Children who learn phonics tend to be better readers and spellers in the long run, they can sound out words, they learn different rules (such as when there are 2 vowels in a word is ther first vowel long or short?), and their reading comprehention scores are always higher. When you have a 2nd grader in a private school reading on a 5th grade level i would say yes hooked on phonics does work. But like I said before, my child was not able to make out any of the words in the above paragraph, yet she can read the Chronicals of Narnia series, and Charolettes Web. Go Figure, some food for thought.
                          HAHAHA!!! Okay...excuse my sorry arse but I went to a private school for 12 years. I was able to read and understand that paragraph. But then again, I hated phonics so I might be in that 10% eh?
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                          • lather
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 591

                            #58
                            In my experience those with good interpersonal skills, leadership, communication, writing skills and a good work ethic succeed much more than those that just have good grades in college, or a high IQ.

                            Unfortunately its often the case of who you know, not what you know. Favortism and social groups do occur in the workplace. Those that have the ability to self-promote themselves also tend to excel.

                            Expecting to make a lot of money shouldnt be a main reason to attend college.
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                            • acecl22
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 397

                              #59
                              the money is actually not my main reason for wanting to pursue engineering. ive always excelled in math and science, and i have an unrelenting interest to learn more about nearly any machine. it just seems like it fits. im actually going to attend a college for a day (tomorrow actually) with one of my friends to see if i want to go into engineering or not.
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