Markm needs to calm down

[Mango]

Fixed, but you know making all the threads in the world will not solve anything. You can't fight city hall and they will let Mark do whatever he wishes.

Last night he restored a thread I wanted to delete, TWICE. He took it upon himself to override the thread creator and restore it two times.

Pretty if I may say so myself.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

Which thread was this?

[Glickman]

Fixed, but you know making all the threads in the world will not solve anything. You can't fight city hall and they will let Mark do whatever he wishes.

Last night he restored a thread I wanted to delete, TWICE. He took it upon himself to override the thread creator and restore it two times.

Pretty if I may say so myself.

homo-freaking-sexual?

you can fight city hall...

just grab its nuts, and ask for a cough.


or...



stifle them with having noone to govern over

[cphilip]

Fixed, but you know making all the threads in the world will not solve anything. You can't fight city hall and they will let Mark do whatever he wishes.

Last night he restored a thread I wanted to delete, TWICE. He took it upon himself to override the thread creator and restore it two times.

Pretty if I may say so myself.

You don't have any more rights to that thread than we do. You posted it publicly... it's public information after that. If you don't want something to become public domain... don't post it in the first place... So don't get all fresh with me over something you posted you decided was not fit to remain. Think before you do it. After that...well... sorry... but its not yours anymore. Where did you get the idea it was. We might "allow" you to retract. But we don't have to. If the retraction hides something we feel people should know.... that you posted... your fair game. Sorry. But consequences are always possible. By the way. I moved that thread to the graveyard. So no one can see it now. So its dead. But its preserved. Not for the public. So thats the least I can do for all of you.

Mark is doing his job as best he knows how to do it. Sometimes you gotta realize there are differences in culture involved in interpretations. Some people get caught and some don't. Life ain't always fair. Get used to it. And for heavens sakes... keep real life and the internet in perspective!

And lately some people on AO have forgotten this is just an internet forum. It's not real life. Settle back and realize what's most important in life. Put as much effort into bettering the world and people around you as you do this place and the world will be a better place. Keep AO in perspective people. Relax.... take a chill pill... Everything will work out in the long run. Trust me. Some of you are acting like Chicken Little. Some of you are totaly acting like cry babies. Take a long look in the mirror and reflect on what is realy important.

[Mango]

Phil I know full well that its public domain. What I don't like is the fact that he misused his powers as a "moderator" to restore the thread, TWICE. If the thread creator EVER wishes to delete a thread that should never be questioned, just as the rediculous cuss filter rule should aparently, never be questioned.

[cphilip]

Which thread was this?

The thread included a cartoonish graphic that portrayed the World Trade centers coming down and people running from it. I don't think Mango ment it to portray that nor realized it would be taken that way....but there were some complaints about it being offensive to the Mods. So it is another example of ALL SIDES taking things too literaly or not thinking about the other perspective.

Nonsense Mango. If a member posts something a Mod must act on, that Mod is supposed to document why he did the action. Easiest way and best way is to move the thread out of view and harms way. You closed it so he could not. He opened it to move it. You closed it before he could. He opened it again. You closed it. Finaly today I opened it and moved it myself. No one tried to redisplay it. You just accidently interfered with him doing what he was told to do. And then you MISTAKENLY assumed some foul deed. Wrong.

there was an exchange between Mango and Mark...and that was the end of it. Far as I know. And should be the end of it.

[jdev]

You don't have any more rights to that thread than we do. You posted it publicly... it's public information after that. If you don't want something to become public domain... don't post it in the first place... So don't get all fresh with me over something you posted you decided was not fit to remain. Think before you do it. After that...well... sorry... but its not yours anymore. Where did you get the idea it was. We might "allow" you to retract. But we don't have to. If the retraction hides something we feel people should know.... that you posted... your fair game. Sorry. But consequences are always possible. By the way. I moved that thread to the graveyard. So no one can see it now. So its dead. But its preserved. Not for the public. So thats the least I can do for all of you.

If thats the case, why was Kai's thread deleted. I am told that the content of the thread was the same as this one. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[cphilip]

Phil I know full well that its public domain. What I don't like is the fact that he misused his powers as a "moderator" to restore the thread, TWICE. If the thread creator EVER wishes to delete a thread that should never be questioned, just as the rediculous cuss filter rule should aparently, never be questioned.

He thought you were trying to hide your actions. And he cannot move the thread for safety if you close it. He was covering his behind to open it.

Whats the curse filter got to do with it? Nothing. Don't curse and the filter is a moot point. Trying to change the subject now? Make a point for a change eh?

[cphilip]

If thats the case, why was Kai's thread deleted. I am told that the content of the thread was the same as this one. Please correct me if I am wrong.

A flame thread like this one or Kai's thread can be closed at any time. That one was not deleted It exists in Graveyard. Tater chose to let this one run to let you all get it out of your system and because some other arguments cropped up that need to be delt with. So you are wrong. The contents are not the same. This one starts with Mango accusing Mark of reopening his thread twice. And what realy happened was mark was reopening it just to move it. And Mango not knowing that kept closing it. End of story.

[GT]

what needs to be cut down are post whores, and overall jackassery

I am sure I fall into one of those two groups.

I'll add my .02 here:
It's not easy being a "new" mod. There is a learning curve with the "power" that comes with the job. I think cphill, just a preemptive butt kiss before I pm you to change my name again, is one of the best mods out of all the forums I have been apart of. He does a dam good job in interpting the spirit of a thread and its responses. I am sure he is mentoring MarkM along.

When I first became a mod on one of the honda boards I handed out bans like... It wasnt until I was modding a honda and a mazda board that I began to look at things alittle more light heartedly. I also became better at banning the buttheads quicker by the type of post they posted.


Cliff notes version: give the man some time.

[jdev]

A flame thread like this one or Kai's thread can be closed at any time. That one was not deleted It exists in Graveyard. Tater chose to let this one run to let you all get it out of your system and because some other arguments cropped up that need to be delt with. So you are wrong. The contents are not the same. This one starts with Mango accusing Mark of reopening his thread twice. And what realy happened was mark was reopening it just to move it. And Mango not knowing that kept closing it. End of story.

gotcha. thank you for clearing that up.

i was unaware that kais thread was a flame thread. I also dont see where this is a flame thread. More of a thread were certain members are voicing their dislike for a person, in what seems thusfar, to be a civiized manner.

[cphilip]

gotcha. thank you for clearing that up.

i was unaware that kais thread was a flame thread. I also dont see where this is a flame thread. More of a thread were certain members are voicing their dislike for a person, in what seems thusfar, to be a civiized manner.

Interpretation I suppose. A thread that has no other purpose but to complain about another member would be my interpretation. But its design is not to discuss a subject as much as it is to malign a member. So depending on how hostile it is I suppose it where it gets into flaming. Which is a very vauge term in itself.

What I had to do here was make everyone aware that Mark was trying to respond to a reported post and make a decission. And then when Mango chose to delete it...he was trying to document his action on that exchange by a common method of just archiving the post out of view. Since it was a deleted post who cares right? Only the mod invovled would. This is so if he was challenged on his action later we could all review it. And discuss it and learn from it.

So... what you don't realize is that he does not have the "move" option on a Deleted thread. Its not there. He has to open it first to do that... then wait for reload then hit the "thread options" that will then be there... then change it to move... then move it. He was attempting to do that. And each time, Mango thought he was up to no good by reopening it ( as thats all he saw at the time) and Mango would re-delete it before Mark could finish the move. Then it happened all over again. So when Mango was accusing Mark of reopening it (I guess to embarrase him or something?) Mark decided to just lay off and let me deal with it later. Even though Mark was doing what we ask him to do. Document and save things if you do an action so we can return it if we disagree or we can discuss it for next time. He was attempting to do that. Cover his behind so to speak. And Mango, not knowing what it was about took it wrong.

It's just timing is all. Unfortunate missunderstanding. I appologize for the misunderstanding. But again... there is no reason to always think the worse. You could turn out to look like a fool.

[tony3]

Phil I don't understand, so Mango tried to delete the thread with the offensive gif file, but Mark restored it? Just wondering if that is true.

Edit: Nevermind, I understand.

[Muzikman]

take a chill pill...

How about a Phil Pill? Come on Phil...you were around in the 70's, I know ya got some some place

**Trying to lighten the mood**

[cphilip]

... I took em all... every one of em.... the ones I liked I took two of

70's? heck... i was around in the 60's... partly...