Is america stingy?

[drg]

I think my head just exploded. Taxes are NEVER charity. I go to jail if I dont pay my taxes....

Whoa where did taxes come from? So eager to make a conservative case that you had to invoke the T word? This isn't about taxes, It's about world bank contributions. nobody is going to put the US in jail for not contributing.

[HoppysMag]

Whoa where did taxes come from? So eager to make a conservative case that you had to invoke the T word? This isn't about taxes, It's about world bank contributions. nobody is going to put the US in jail for not contributing.

nobut we will be accused of being stingy. no matter the circumstances. the world wants our money.

[GT]

Whoa where did taxes come from? So eager to make a conservative case that you had to invoke the T word?

Re-read your series of comments: Last time I checked the fed receieved most of its funds from its citizens of which it gives a health portion to other nations, therfore, my taxes.

Companies can give where they please, although, if those activites are not something I support I may not purchase thier product.

To keep tabs on it after it passes into the common good is a very self-centered (and unfortunately very American) thing to do. It's kind of like giving to charity.

so the org. I am giving to is not responsible to provide the services that I understood they would provide with my money? Intresting.....

[drg]

Of course not. Even taxes, once they pass out of your hands, may or may not do what you want them do. Heck I KNOW George Bush will use my tax money in a way I don't want them to be used, but I won't stop paying taxes. Even if I am paying three brackets above someone who supports what Bush does (for example).

[HoppysMag]

Of course not. Even taxes, once they pass out of your hands, may or may not do what you want them do. Heck I KNOW George Bush will use my tax money in a way I don't want them to be used, but I won't stop paying taxes. Even if I am paying three brackets above someone who supports what Bush does (for example).

yes because all bush supporters are poor. you people cant even keep your steriotypes straight

[drg]

for example

Happy new year ...

[cphilip]

Well... the only thing we "declined" was personnel that we couldn't realy utilize efficiently. It would have been difficult to coordinate people with the language barriers and equipment differences and all that sort of thing. Was not much help to offer personnel. It would have created more problems than it was worth.

[Beemer]

i agree, we dont have to give crap. the speach by gordon sincleir sums it up best

No offense but if you Quote Gordan you gotta do it all.

31 years later and.........................



Mp3 version Here........ http://www.americanrhetoric.com/spee...onsinclair.htm

Although presented on his radio show in 1973, Mr. Sinclair's message most certainly touches the hearts and lives of many Americans and their allies today, after the senseless loss of innocent lives on Sept. 11, 2001...


* Gordan Sinclair, passed away in 1984.




This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there....I saw it!

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, war-mongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon?

You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those....

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[Albinonewt]

You calling them stingy too?

By the way, this whole "us vs. the world" mentality is part and parcel of the Ugly American mindset. We aren't against the world, we are part of it. In the end, no one country can stand against the world, not even us. So continuing down that path is self-destructive.

It IS US against each individual nation. Thinking of the rest of the nations of earth as the collective world is not even remotely accurate. Each nation developes alliances with like minded nations with similiar goals.

Right now, our goal is to free nations from fundamentalists and fight terror. A large part of the world is with us, and a large part is against us (the Middle East and most of western Europe.)

[1stdeadeye]

If we cut our funding of a few of those big black holes of money we'd have the deficit licked faster than a Frenchman shrieks in terror whenever a German looks at them funny.

---Fred

That's funny!

As for the UN. Close it down and kick them out!

Why don't we get Kofi Annan's cronies and son to kick in the billions form the Food for oil kickbacks?

[drg]

Hey and Bush kicks up our share to $350 mil, which is the largest single country pledge. As long as he follows up on it and actually gives it (which is genuinely in question with this president), this thread becomes mostly moot.

[Albinonewt]

Hey and Bush kicks up our share to $350 mil, which is the largest single country pledge. As long as he follows up on it and actually gives it (which is genuinely in question with this president), this thread becomes mostly moot.

It's a question because you don't like him? Or because of some actual event where he didn't deliver aid?

I think the former.

[Bolter]

nobut we will be accused of being stingy. no matter the circumstances. the world wants our money.

We don't want your money, we want you to stop attacking things with weapons of mass destruction.

When their countries get levelled, the fleeing millions come to Europe. And we, the Euro taxpayer, has to feed, dress, house, educate the poor immigrants.

Sort your own country out before trying to sort others.

And just for the record, I have never heard anyone say that America is stingy. Your foreign policy is questioned across the globe, but no-one thinks your stingy.

[1stdeadeye]

We don't want your money, we want you to stop attacking things with weapons of mass destruction.

When their countries get levelled, the fleeing millions come to Europe. And we, the Euro taxpayer, has to feed, dress, house, educate the poor immigrants.

First, we have not used WMD since WWII! Not many people complained about that since it ended the war.

As for the millions coming to Europe, where are they coming from? Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon,.... We did not invade any of them. They are coming because of your rediculously liberal immigration policies.

[HoppysMag]

We don't want your money, we want you to stop attacking things with weapons of mass destruction.

When their countries get levelled, the fleeing millions come to Europe. And we, the Euro taxpayer, has to feed, dress, house, educate the poor immigrants.

Sort your own country out before trying to sort others.

And just for the record, I have never heard anyone say that America is stingy. Your foreign policy is questioned across the globe, but no-one thinks your stingy.

id like to just say that i see england as one of the few true allies we have.
we <3 england