umm... hot chick thread?

[brianlojeck]

Simply put, this is a Paintball fourm and not a female pin-up forum. It might have been ok if it stayed tasteful, but it did not. It might have been cool if it stayed to paintball playing chicks, but it did not. If I wanna look at lips poking out a pair of shorts, I'll go to a page that specializes in it.

I'm not arguing it should stay open (like I said, not my forum, not mine to say...), I'm just a bit tired of the whole "demeaning to women" line of thinking being applied to anything featuring a pretty woman, or enjoyed by straight men.

[MicroMiniMe]

I'm not arguing it should stay open (like I said, not my forum, not mine to say...), I'm just a bit tired of the whole "demeaning to women" line of thinking being applied to anything featuring a pretty woman, or enjoyed by straight men.

So.... what. Equal opportunity? Start some ripped PBers with shirts off thread for non 'straight men'?

[nippinout]

I rather enjoyed the Hot Chick Thread. I like looking at women.

...and i get to see what turns other people on

[Muzikman]

I'm not arguing it should stay open (like I said, not my forum, not mine to say...), I'm just a bit tired of the whole "demeaning to women" line of thinking being applied to anything featuring a pretty woman, or enjoyed by straight men.

You are a man right? Then how do you know what women think is demeaning? You don't. If women think it is, then that's what they think, you will not change it any more than a woman can change your mind about looking at it. It is a two way street, men think one way and women think another. It's your basic sociology.

**** This does not mean mean all men and all women feel this way.

[brianlojeck]

So.... what. Equal opportunity? Start some ripped PBers with shirts off thread for non 'straight men'?

Heck yeah, I'm all for the ladies having a place to share some beefcake if they want it. It would be awful hypocritical of me to say I want to see bikini chicks and not want them to see some buff 'baller run around...

(are therre any buff paintballers? they all seem a little scrawny to me...)

[Target Practice]

Heck yeah, I'm all for the ladies having a place to share some beefcake if they want it. It would be awful hypocritical of me to say I want to see bikini chicks and not want them to see some buff 'baller run around...

(are therre any buff paintballers? they all seem a little scrawny to me...)

And that would objectify men. As a man, I would be offended.

See how that works? I doubt it.

[brianlojeck]

You are a man right?

wait... gimmie a minute... I know this one... ;-)

Then how do you know what women think is demeaning? You don't. If women think it is, then that's what they think, you will not change it any more than a woman can change your mind about looking at it. It is a two way street, men think one way and women think another. It's your basic sociology.

I'm not really trying to change anyone's mind. Like TSC said in her first post (I'm assuming she's a her, if I'm wrong... my bad...) we're both kind of banging our heads into a brick wall with each other's opinions. I'm just trying to feel out the logic behind her opinion while describing the logic behind mine. Do that kind of discussion often enough, and people will eventually come to find a better answer. Heck, I might be completely off base and wrong... if I am someone will point out a logical fallacy to my arguments, but only through discussion...

Just because we dissagree doesn't mean we can't discuss something.

As for me not being able to know what women think is demeaning and why, the whole demeaning argument usually ends with the yes-it-is camp saying that these depictions lower men's opinions of women (TSC and her o-ring story), and lower women's opinions of themselves (bullimia, anorexia, trying to look like the Victoria Secret models, etc....)

TSC and I are mostly wrestling with the first one, and I know (at least sort of) what she thinks is demeaning because she's told me in her posts. I'd be happy to go around and around on the second point as well, but I don't want to start that one, because I always come off sounding like a heartless such-and-such. ;-)