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  • SCpoloRicker
    HA HA I'm custom!!1
    • Jan 2004
    • 4375

    #16
    1. Get all the lawyer you can. My friend in a very similar situation dropped over 10K. He had a transporting a minor across state lines, but similar situation.

    2. STFU. Cops, girl, her family, press (its possible). STFU!

    3. That is all. Good luck for your bro.
    God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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    • Athius
      Registered User
      • Apr 2003
      • 533

      #17
      Originally posted by ascetic1
      You were warned that any flame replies would be deleted...don't repeat the comments...MarkM

      Dude is the same thing as if you are 24 and you have sex with a 20 year old girl.

      A girl with a age of 15 is old enough to choose with who the hell they want to have sex with but if she was like 12 or less well thats diferent.

      And BTW why dont you ask in what age did your great grandmother got married maybe she (if she is alive) or your grandmother will tell you she was married when she was 15-17.


      If she says that she had sex with him willingly no one can do anything against him.

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      • MarkM
        UK Cougars
        • Jul 2002
        • 2433

        #18
        Originally posted by Athius
        Dude is the same thing as if you are 24 and you have sex with a 20 year old girl.

        A girl with a age of 15 is old enough to choose with who the hell they want to have sex with but if she was like 12 or less well thats diferent.

        And BTW why dont you ask in what age did your great grandmother got married maybe she (if she is alive) or your grandmother will tell you she was married when she was 15-17.


        If she says that she had sex with him willingly no one can do anything against him.
        The grandmother idea might well hold water however if the law says 16 is the age of consent then that's what it is now no arguements.....a 15yr old has been deemed in law for the state in question as being a child so cannot have sex even if they want...legally that is and the same applies to a 12 yr old whatever your moral stand point. Once the two people reach the LEGAL age of consent then all is ok, even if you might make a comment of a 30 yr old being with a 20yr old...it doesn't matter as they are both over the age of LEGAL consent. Read the entire thread before you start with the bar room chat.
        Mark UK Cougars


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        • Athius
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 533

          #19
          Originally posted by MarkM
          The grandmother idea might well hold water however if the law says 16 is the age of consent then that's what it is now no arguements.....a 15yr old has been deemed in law for the state in question as being a child so cannot have sex even if they want...legally that is and the same applies to a 12 yr old whatever your moral stand point. Once the two people reach the LEGAL age of consent then all is ok, even if you might make a comment of a 30 yr old being with a 20yr old...it doesn't matter as they are both over the age of LEGAL consent. Read the entire thread before you start with the bar room chat.
          If she says she did it willingly theres nothing they can do against him i know about this because i know someone that wanted to put charges against his daughters BF and she was 15 they couldnt do anything against him since she did it willingly.

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          • MarkM
            UK Cougars
            • Jul 2002
            • 2433

            #20
            It won't wash the simple facts as stated in this thread are
            1 The girl is 15yrs old
            2 The boy is 19yrs old
            3 The parents are charging the boy
            4 Age of consent...the age at which you are legally allowed to say yes is 16 for this state.

            Simple maths tells you there is a case to answer, a possible loophole exists due to an age difference but then we are not aware of the exact birthdates in question.
            It is even covered in the legal jargon (second post) that saying that said she was older then there is still no defense.

            What we aren't aware of as such is if the girl is still on good terms with the boy...regardless of her saying yes "I asked for sex"..also covered in the second post is what is often described as "heavy petting" which also counts as statutory rape.

            The Parents, the LEGAL gaurdians are making the charges...it won't matter how loud the girl shouts that she wanted sex, the age of consent is set on the understanding that anyone below that age is legally incapable of making the descision to say yes to sex.

            The example you have used is the one about the other guy who got away with it...legally he shouldn't have, assuming the same state as this thread is based.
            I personally find it very confusing that what is legal in one state is illegal in another, I don't have that problem where I live, same laws for all of the country which is way easier.
            Mark UK Cougars


            UK Cougars
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            • CKY_Alliance
              Team Deranged
              • Jan 2005
              • 1695

              #21
              I know many have said it already but ill say it again get a lawyer if its privided by the state or you pay for it.They deffintly know more about law then the average person and know the little loop holes.

              Even the best lawyers wouldnt step into court without a lawyer to help defend them.

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              • B.A.M.
                Operation Ivy
                • Jan 2004
                • 1468

                #22
                Originally posted by MarkM
                It won't wash the simple facts as stated in this thread are
                1 The girl is 15yrs old
                2 The boy is 19yrs old
                3 The parents are charging the boy
                4 Age of consent...the age at which you are legally allowed to say yes is 16 for this state.
                I say if she agreed to have sex then its fine. She's old enough to make well informed desicions and i think it stupid the parents are pressing charges because the girl might not want this incident brought public. I say if the crime that is done against a person then only that person should be able to press charges not anyone else.
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                • bornl33t
                  hello lamewads
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 4463

                  #23
                  this whole threat is proof that parents are unable to take blame for their failure. If youd kid screws up then you forgot to teach them something.

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                  • Rooster
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 1069

                    #24
                    "I say if she agreed to have sex then its fine. "

                    The state says its not.

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                    • Lohman446
                      Useful posts: 7
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9315

                      #25
                      Originally posted by B.A.M.
                      I say if she agreed to have sex then its fine. She's old enough to make well informed desicions and i think it stupid the parents are pressing charges because the girl might not want this incident brought public. I say if the crime that is done against a person then only that person should be able to press charges not anyone else.
                      She is not old enough to make well informed decisions - the law in most states reflects this. I say this - touch my daughter (when there that age) and pray the police get to you before I do Maybe by then the law will be how you want it, and trust me, I wouldn't have to worry about you pressing charges

                      This is all hypothetical... I have no clue who this person is of course, just trying to let others see how strongly I feel on thsi one
                      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                      • hitech
                        Not a shedder of vortices
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 4775

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lohman446
                        touch my daughter (when there that age) and pray the police get to you before I do




                        To the person i question, keep your mouth shut and get an attorney. That is pretty much the best advice no matter what you may be charged with.


                        Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                        Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                        The only Hitech Lubricant

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                        • psychoreaper_666
                          Unregistered User
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 95

                          #27
                          wow that sucks

                          but on another note, my new GF's MOM told me that if she ever comes home pregnant she will cut off my you know what and mount them on the wall in their living room.
                          i would expect that from a dad but from a mom

                          Waiting on a date to leave for BMT. :shooting:
                          No one is listening until you make a mistake.<---The story of my life

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                          • 1stdeadeye
                            Still around????
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 8501

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lohman446
                            : I say this - touch my daughter (when there that age) and pray the police get to you before I do Maybe by then the law will be how you want it, and trust me, I wouldn't have to worry about you pressing charges


                            Right there with you!

                            Colin,
                            You need to start hanging out with a better class of people!

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                            • davidb
                              Understandable
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 555

                              #29
                              If somebody who went by "psychoreaper_666" on the internet was dating my daughter, I'd be on my way to the taxidermist within about an hour of finding out, and save myself the trouble.

                              No offense really intended, there's a lot of people that I like just fine that I wouldn't want dating my (future, as yet theoretical) daughter.
                              Your head asplode!

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                              • MarkM
                                UK Cougars
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2433

                                #30
                                Originally posted by B.A.M.
                                I say if she agreed to have sex then its fine. She's old enough to make well informed desicions and i think it stupid the parents are pressing charges because the girl might not want this incident brought public. I say if the crime that is done against a person then only that person should be able to press charges not anyone else.
                                When you want to quote me quote all of the post not the part that you might happen to think covers your arguement. It is statements like yours that for many americans must make them feel glad that you are too young to vote. How young is old enough? A line must be drawn somewhere, for the state in question it is 16 not 15 not 15 3/4's but 16. If you live in this state and you take your GF to bed if she is 15...(only 1yr younger than you) by the states statutes you are committing Statutary Rape, regardless of her wishes this would probably still stand if you were visiting the state in question. The girl is a minor so of course it is her parents that press the charges, this is the same regardless of if the girl cried rape or the parents walked in on them, read a diary etc etc. The state has decided that 16 is the LEGAL age that you have to reach before you can make the choice to consent to sex, go campaign on a street corner and see how much support you get, of course do it in a High school then of course all your buddys are going to say "hell yeah" again thank goodness they can't vote. Still want to keep this arguement going?
                                Mark UK Cougars


                                UK Cougars
                                Sterling Owners Group. Member #39

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